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Question of DPS by ilvl11 replies to this topic
Posted 16 November 2012 - 03:25 PM
Posted 16 November 2012 - 03:30 PM
So by linking your armory it would greatly help us simulate your character or even provide you some raw feedback
Edited by Zauxst, 16 November 2012 - 03:31 PM.
-Random dude from EU forums
Posted 16 November 2012 - 04:00 PM
Posted 16 November 2012 - 04:11 PM
Posted 16 November 2012 - 04:30 PM
Posted 16 November 2012 - 04:40 PM
Posted 16 November 2012 - 06:13 PM
I'd like to contradict you on this one. Demonology is pretty viable in raiding scene right now, especially since it's better burst then affliction with Grimoir of Service.
Even Demonology can't come close to Affliction's performance at this point.
I'd done some testing and I had fights (Garajal hc where bursting was very good), the burst was going to 160-170 when all favorable conditions where met.
Grimoire of Sacrifice for destro is better by far, with the current bosses, as for affliction
While Grimoire of Service is good for Demonology if you manage to use it everytime on cooldown ( and chain it with something extra, like dark soul + imps)
Anyway, try to put a world of logs so we can find more details.
-Random dude from EU forums
Posted 16 November 2012 - 06:38 PM
Posted 16 November 2012 - 06:50 PM
Demo = 85168
Aff = 94785
http://raidbots.com/.../14/60/default/ Feng 10 man Normal
Demo = 72133
Aff = 84530
http://raidbots.com/dpsbot/Gara'jal_the_Spiritbinder/10N/100/14/60/default/ Gara'jal 10 man Normal
Demo = 77392
Aff = 91806
http://raidbots.com/.../14/60/default/ Spirit Kings 10 man Normal
Demo = 74048
Aff = 82350
http://raidbots.com/.../14/60/default/ Elegon 10 man Normal
Demo = 124351
Aff = 162673
http://raidbots.com/.../14/60/default/ Will of the Emperor 10 man Normal
Demo = 65799
Aff = 100195
http://raidbots.com/dpsbot/Imperial_Vizier_Zor'lok/10N/100/14/60/default/ Imperial Vizier Zor'lok 10 man Normal
Demo = 69571
Aff = 80463
http://raidbots.com/dpsbot/Blade_Lord_Ta'yak/10N/100/14/60/default/ Blade Lord Ta'yak 10 man Normal
Demo = 60018
Aff = 71028
http://raidbots.com/.../14/60/default/ Garalon 10 man Normal
Demo = 85892
Aff = 103880
http://raidbots.com/dpsbot/Wind_Lord_Mel'jarak/10N/100/14/60/default/ Wind Lord Mel'jarak 10 man Normal
Demo = 163539
Aff = 155368
http://raidbots.com/dpsbot/Amber-Shaper_Un'sok/10N/100/14/60/default/ Amber Shaper Un'sok 10 man Normal
Demo = 120911
Aff = 135755
http://raidbots.com/dpsbot/Grand_Empress_Shek'zeer/10N/100/14/60/default/ Grand Empress Shek'zeer 10 man Normal
Demo = 67819
Aff = 86702
There is all the proof you need. These are the top 100 parses for 10 man normal, so it excludes really high level players doing Heroics. You're looking at HUGE differences between Demo and Affliction except for one fight where you're fighting a ton of adds next to the boss able to be cleaved. You can't justify Demonology being competitive with this proof.
Posted 16 November 2012 - 11:11 PM
Posted 17 November 2012 - 02:26 AM
Posted 26 November 2012 - 08:18 AM
I ran LFR last night as Affliction and did 81k to Gara'jal since he's the closest I can come to a DPS target dummy in a raid situation. I did this with no flask and no food. I repeated it and did Demonology and did 68k. Same item level, properly reforged for each. I played Demonology all throughout T10, 11, 12, and 13, so I'm not some noob who never played Demo. It's just not in as good a place as Affliction at all and every single log you can pull up with testify to that. The only time Demonology trumps Affliction is challenge modes because of the insanely high sustainable AoE. In a raiding situation, it's Affliction or enjoy hindering your raid. Granted, Demonology is a BLAST to play. Unfortunately, it's not tuned well enough in PvE.
I do over 80k unbuffed unflasked on lfr garajal as demo. I've been told that's unusual by other warlocks and that I just play demo really well, idk, but I've only been beaten in lfr in dps once, by an aff lock on will of the emperor.
I do slightly less in most fights as aff than I do as demo, but I'm not playing it well yet. I've switched to aff this week to learn it and hopefully help my raid team more. Thanks for the guides, they are great and I really appreciate them!