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Shammm

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Hello guys i finally managed to write one. I have no idea how to analyse it so i could do it myself, would appreciate any help with that. Im sure theres a lot of room for improvement but i just cant see it myself. Thanks in advance rolleyes.gif

 

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/6xrtw4mFfgvChVLa#fight=4

 

Also there are few things that bother me :

 

1) When FW is up and Vanish is ready do u maximize amount of backstabs or do u pull energy instead so u use vanish right after FW is gone;

 

2) Hemo. I remember using it while FW is up = dps loss, but also i read smth like u can use hemo right before FW is gone so hemo snapshots dmg.

 

3) Do we hemo the secondary target before applying rupture ?

 

4) When u master the rotation what is there to improve your dps ? Like what is the difference between a decent rogue and expert.

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1) You should always be trying to play around 80-90 energy, assuming you don't have the set bonus and are running Glyph of Energy. BS, wait to get back to 80, BS again. Evis on 5cp and Vanish to keep FW up. Remember to dump excess cp's if Premed is off cooldown

 

2) That's old information

 

3) Depends how many cp's you have and how long the target will live

 

4) 99%++  Rupture and SnD uptime. Proper cp and energy pooling, to maximise the number of Evis casts inside FW. Correct multi-dotting both Bleeds and Poisons, abusing multiple targets to generate cp with FoK.

 

Now do all of that while not taking any damage, Kicking everything you need to, and always being alive at the end of a fight even if it's a wipe.

 

 

I'll get to the logs later today

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2) Correct

 

3) If it's a small target, like the Pale on Tectus or the add on Imperator, you don't want to waste a long Rupture on the target. Just use Hemo to apply the SV debuff and continue your rotation. Otherwise  you're wasting cp's

 

If it's a slightly larger add, like the Fungal Flesh Eaters on Brackenspore, you can swap over with a normal 5 cp Rupture. If you don't have 5cp, use Hemo and build up before using Rupture.

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Not sure what that Assassination Rogue did - all I noticed is that he had an extra use of the Coin compared to the other guys towards the top.

 

As for the logs, it's difficult for me to read since I don't speak Russian (or whatever other language that is). Your cooldown use looks good with no real issues.

 

You could tighten up your Rupture and SnD uptimes, but they're not awful.

 

You didn't open with Garrote though, which should be changed. Are you running Subterfuge? You also shouldn't use Hemo during Find Weakness, and you either used a REALLY short Rupture or overwrote a bunch of time on it shortly after your opener.

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As for the logs, it's difficult for me to read since I don't speak Russian (or whatever other language that is). Your cooldown use looks good with no real issues.

You can translate it by adding &translate=true to the end of the url.  Or by clicking the translate button (just lower than the recent reports dropdown button and right above replay).

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You can translate it by adding &translate=true to the end of the url.  Or by clicking the translate button (just lower than the recent reports dropdown button and right above replay).

 

Blew my mind. Thanks!

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I did open with garrote, im running subterfuge and i believe i neither used short rupture nor refreshed it too early. As for the assa rogue, for me this is just mindblowing, the guy is behind ~10 ilvls competing vs superior spec and doing almost the same dps as rank1.

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You can translate it by adding &translate=true to the end of the url.  Or by clicking the translate button (just lower than the recent reports dropdown button and right above replay).

 

Unfortunately doesn't change the skill names on the graph.

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I did open with garrote, im running subterfuge and i believe i neither used short rupture nor refreshed it too early. As for the assa rogue, for me this is just mindblowing, the guy is behind ~10 ilvls competing vs superior spec and doing almost the same dps as rank1.

 

Oh, you did. I must have missed the first second or so when I zoomed in on the log before, cause all I saw at the start was 1 Ambush which prompted my question

 

Maybe you just had a whole bunch of Multistrikes at the start and it shortened your first Rupture by a lot - looked to me like it and the second were used oddly close together.

 

Otherwise, the logs look pretty good as I said before

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