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[Balance] Is this right opener [Video]

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If rerolled into boomer about 3 weeks ago, still struggling on a few things so why not ask you guys! (ilvl 671)

 

In this video I made I pretty much have my opener, is this the right one since there are quite a few that you can pull-off.

 

 

Since it is at dummies there is not countdown but this is what I do:

 

pre-boss

INC

pre-pot

SS

Boss-pul

Starfire x2

SS

Starfire X2

(refresh dots when CA at -2sec)

SS

Starfire x2

 

 

Macros:

 

#showtooltip Celestial Alignment
/cast Celestial Alignment
/cast Moonfire
 
#showtooltip Shards of Nothing
/use 14
/cast Starfire
 
 
Thanks in advance hopefully you can give me some tips
 
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Hi shingeki,

 

looks very fine for me.

You're using the correct opener and the right macros.

 

So openers good. What else do you need to know?

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Im struggling with these 2 things:

 

Whenever all CD"s come off CD, do I wait untill i have 3 stacks of SS before I pull the same thing as my opener.

 

In AoE situations, like Blast Furnace, Do I only keep starfall up while in lunar eclipe and do I keep Moonfire/Starfire dot's up at all mob's.

 

Also is it mandatory to only DoT while in eclipse? sometimes this isn't the case. And sometimes I think I will be solar but it will change to lunar while in cast, do you disrupt wrath to cast starfire or just cast it?

 

Is it correct that starfire applies multiple target eventhough cast on one? (seems like the case)

 

Maybe some general tips/tricks if you have them ^^

 

Thanks for your responds!

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Whenever all CD"s come off CD, do I wait untill i have 3 stacks of SS before I pull the same thing as my opener.

 

 

If possible, yes. When you know that INC/CA CDs will fade in 10/20 seconds and you have no or 1 charge left over try to save them for next use of INC/CA. With proc luck and automatic recharge you will have 3 by that time.

 

 

In AoE situations, like Blast Furnace, Do I only keep starfall up while in lunar eclipe and do I keep Moonfire/Starfire dot's up at all mob's.

 

Keep Starfall up at 3 or more targets on every time no mather what eclipse you in

At 2 targets you should prefer using Starfall only in Lunar

And yes. Dot everything around an keep them rolling as much as possible

 

 

Also is it mandatory to only DoT while in eclipse? sometimes this isn't the case. And sometimes I think I will be solar but it will change to lunar while in cast, do you disrupt wrath to cast starfire or just cast it?

 

 

ALWAYS finish your casts. Do not interrupt them if possible.

Try to set / refresh DOTs when you are at Eclipse peaks

 

 

Is it correct that starfire applies multiple target eventhough cast on one? (seems like the case)

 

I think you mean "Sunfire" - Dot. If yes, then yes. 1 Sunfire Dot will be applied to every target in a (i dont know excatcly) short radius around the target

 

 

Maybe some general tips/tricks if you have them ^^

 

 

hmm. that would be a lot to write atm. smile.png Just check the other topics here, you'll find notable info there. I have given to them a lot of tips.

Also read the basic guide http://www.icy-veins.com/forums/topic/7412-balance-wod-60-guide-when-the-stars-align/

and the Tips-and-Tricks-topic http://www.icy-veins.com/forums/topic/8217-balance-tier-17-tips-and-tricks/

and this one about "when to Starfall"

http://www.icy-veins.com/forums/topic/11050-balance-starfall-61/

 

Onc you provide logfiles, I / we can look into them and tell you what you did wrong and what/how to do better

 

Thanks for your responds!

 

np, anytime smile.png

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That posts are going to be in my list so i can check it sometimes. Thanks again!

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Hi shingeki,

 

looks very fine for me.

You're using the correct opener and the right macros.

 

So openers good. What else do you need to know?

 

Updateds post with latest Maidens log, can you please look at at and tell me what I can do better?

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Opener is "The opener" aside from a few adjustments. Some people pot before INC some after, after makes more sense. Yeah You cast Starsurge, but knowing when to precast it is a skill within its self, I'm sure you have some ppl who jump the gun and mess up the pull anyway, but try to start determining the travel distance and you'll know when you should cast it around 2 seconds or 1, etc.

 

I suggest having two CA's, one with moonfire and one without. The one with moonfire is to make your opener super efficient, so you could do 2 for CA by its self and shift+2 for the CA+moonfire opener.

 

You want to at least have 2 Starsurges, and heading towards the Lunar cycle as CA is coming up. It's a good habit to get into now so when you get 4pc you won't have a problem, but if you cap out on 3 charges while you're in solar heading towards lunar and CA is about to come up then just hang on to it, but don't stay capped on 3 charges if CA has like 20 seconds left before it's off cooldown.

 

Blast Furnace is all about priority targets, but they throw out a ton of targets so it looks like a good idea to just starfall all day, but you need to save charges for when the primal elementalists are vulnerable, and you need to focus on killing engineers and firecallers with that. Then last phase you'll only be using Starsurge. If you starfall the entire fight you're getting carried and not really contributing anything. So if you want to play it safe, you could only Starfall when you're in Lunar and just keep charges going on that and still have some for lunar empowerments.

 

You want to dot and use up the peak bonus towards the end of it, you shouldn't immediately moonfire at the peak because you could have been casting a starfire with full benefit of your mastery, but instead you wasted that bonus damage on a little buff to your moonfire cast damage. If there's no dot on something and you're not in peak then you need to dot it anyway, the bonus damage with lunar/solar peak isn't that big of a dps increase and you'll get more from getting the dot on the mob asap.

 

Tips? Try not to cap out on Starsurges, try to keep your dots up always, and always stay a step ahead of the encounter.

 

As for your logs, 10 minute fight and you only used your cooldowns twice when you could have done it four times. And I thought you had your trinket bound to starfire? You only used it twice, it has 2 min cooldown, could have gotten 5 in there, maybe 4 if you held onto it for when there wasn't heavy movement like the bombs. I would have a separate trinket macro and just have regular starfire. You also didn't Nature's Vigil once, using it off cd when you can tunnel wraths and starfires into a target the full duration, it's a decent bit of healing, also saving it for key moments can make the difference. You also never used Bark Skin, these are all things that can mean the difference between a wipe and a kill. Again, the cooldowns, save your 2nd potion for that last phase with lust, don't get caught up in using your CD's after they come up again that you habitually use your potion in the first 4 mins.

 

Let's look at Gruul, with your macro if you do it exactly on pull you should have 100% uptime on dots no problem, but they're below 96% which is terrible. You didn't bark skin and nature's vigil the slices. No second potion was used.

 

Oregorger: Terrible dot uptime, not enough starfalling during 2nd phase, a melee hit? No second potion. No BarkSkin for torrents or barrages that get out, no Vigils.

 

Beastlord: Needs more starfall, dot uptimes abyssmal. No second pot. No barkskin, 1 vigil at the end.

 

Op: Sunfire should be 96%+, cooldowns could be used better. 2nd potion, one vigil randomly.

 

Hanz: One starfall at the end? 3 melees? cooldowns onced? no vigil no skin. No 2st pot.

 

Flametransgender: More starfallerino on wolves. You could have used your cds again at the end and that second potion's a bitch. No barkskin, and 1 vigil when there was at least 3 firestorms.

 

Kromog: Needs more efficient starflapping. Better sunfire uptime too. No skin, 1 random vigil when theres raid damage going out all the time.

 

Itemization: You can easily try for the mythic kargath ring, and you need to get some mastery enchants like on that cloak and the ring, doesn't have to be the expensive ones. Just something to give you like .5% dps, never know. Hopefully you get the spec straight and get 4pc so you can start dumping on narbs, I wish you luck.

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