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Assassination Rogue DPS loss

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Hi Guys,


Thanks for taking the time to look at this and it's a bit of a weird one.


I've been playing a Rogue for a while now and I used to play Combat so I decided a when I came back to play WoD I would try learning how to Assassination... so I spoke to a few people managed to get it all sorted and all working, in most fights I was in the Top 5 on Highmual HC however recently I've had a problem.


So I've been raiding BRF HC for a while and my DPS just seems to burst nicely but then my DPS Seems to drop for some reason - let me explain:


Using Blackhand HC as an example so I'll throw on Poisons, Rune, Flask, Food (125) and PrePot.


Now my opener consist of Stealth > Mutilate > Mutilate until I hit 5CP's then I'll hit Shadow Reflection and Vendetta and then I'll Rupture (so rupture is applied twice via Shadow Reflection)... which I can sometimes push about 50k burst... however there's another rogue in our guild who plays the same spec as me who can hit 90k which is insane but I can't work out why as we're pretty much identical on gear (obviously his Trinkets are different).


So far so good - so my rotation will be Mutilate till 5CP and then Envenom whenever I have 5CP's which has been doing well for me however half way through the fight it seems to almost stop dead in its tracks and I can't understand why.


Basically there's something wrong somewhere in the rotation and I can't work out what it is... I Vanish every minute and then Mutilate to save energy but yeah my rotation is maintaining 100% Rupture and Envenom whenever possible but for some reason my DPS is low.


So recently we did mythic Gruul which was again his burst was 80k mine was about 60k then when we evened out at sustained damage I was about 32k my higher and he was pushing 45k... again normally I don't give a shit about the numbers I just can't understand why there was a 13k difference... so I asked him and he told me he does his opener as Stealth > Muti > Muti > Rupture > Shadow Reflection > Vendetta... which is a DPS loss to me due to the fact he's not taking advantage of the double Rupture...  Could it be trinkets?? could it be something else?? any advice would be really appreciated also I'm around if anyone wants to log on to take a look at the rotation on a dummy.


My armoury is Masiker on Silvermoon

My buddies is Zeljio also on Silvermoon


Thanks guys - Hopefully I can sort this out cause at the moment I feel like hanging up my daggers completely.

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he told me he does his opener as Stealth > Muti > Muti > Rupture > Shadow Reflection > Vendetta... which is a DPS loss to me due to the fact he's not taking advantage of the double Rupture


For Subtlety, you're right - not having Clone copy Rupture is a bad idea. 


But as Assassination, Rupture does very little damage. His burst is considerably more effective because he copies more Envenoms.


He also might have trinkets which lend themselves more to burst - Beating Heart or Coin, and the Trigger from Blackfuse, for example.


Hope this helps

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