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Sorry if this has been brought up already, but in reviewing the Disc priest rotation guide, it says this:

 

As of Patch 6.0.2, wow_icon_ability_priest_atonement.jpg Atonement healing has become inconsequential. In the presence of other healing options, casting spells affected by Atonement will always result in an overall healing loss, even when accounting for the eventual wow_icon_ability_priest_archangel.jpg Archangel. At level 100, the Mana gain from wow_icon_ability_priest_flashoflight.jpg Power Word: Solace will outweigh the time spent, but at this time stacking wow_icon_spell_holy_divineillumination.j Evangelism should only be considered if:

  • You are consciously preparing for a difficult damage phase OR
  • You have the Tier 16 2-piece bonus and need a stack to activate the effect OR
  • There really is nothing else to do.

Is this still true? Given that Penance generates stacks of Evangelism and that Penance is a fairly powerful heal (I use it a lot), Archangel is basically free. 5% additional healing per stack and an (almost) guaranteed crit from Prayer of Healing (or Flash Heal, though I almost never use that) seems worth the click. Am I missing something here?

 

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It looks like its just the wording that may be confusing.

 

Archangel is definitely worth using and yes the Empowered archangel gives a 100% crit chance to PoH. This can however be achieved with only 1 stack of evangelism.

 

The healing from atonement is what is now terrible and should only be used to build evangelism if there is no healing required.

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Is this still true? Given that Penance generates stacks of Evangelism and that Penance is a fairly powerful heal (I use it a lot), Archangel is basically free.

 

I think you've read that wrong. Penance only generates a stack of Evangelism when you use it offensively, not to heal someone. You would be losing out on the healing of Penance and not be able to heal anyone during the 2 second cast on the boss. 

 

If you want Evangelism stacks you have to stop healing and cast Smite, Holy fire or Penance on the boss. During this time the only healing you can do is the passive heals through Atonement, which Icy-veins is saying is not very potent compared to the heals/shields you could be churning out. Hope this helped clear that up for you.

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Is this still true? Given that Penance generates stacks of Evangelism and that Penance is a fairly powerful heal (I use it a lot), Archangel is basically free.

 

I think you've read that wrong. Penance only generates a stack of Evangelism when you use it offensively, not to heal someone. 

 

The Priest T17 Discipline 2P Bonus (assuming you still have it) for disc priests generates 1 stack of Evangelism when casting penance as a heal (2 stacks when used for damage)

 

With the new Priest T18 Discipline 2P Bonus it is beneficial to cast penance on the boss when no raid members require healing to either refresh or build up your stacks of Reparation (72% healing increase to penance when at 6 stacks) as well as to add 1 stack of evangelism.

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Thanks for the information folks. Definitely a helpful group here! :)

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