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New Ret Needs DPS help

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Concerns: Uptime, Stat Cap, Rotation Direction, DPS/DMG


Hey All, I normally Main Spec Prot and have no issues so ive decided to Start DPSing as Ret, however to me my damage/dps is terribad, i havent done any real extensive parsing for numbers etc so i have raid logs to kinda help paint a picture.


About me and raiding is a Mechanics< Everything else if i messing up a mechanic im already all over my own case. So i can do mechanics its just everything else lol. Ive Read the guides and i just dont know where im going wrong


Help Me Please :D



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Hello Phoenix, do you have any more recent logs? It's hard to determine your DPS for these logs since you were using a tanking trinket (Cursed Plume) and a Saberblade Talisman. While the Cursed Plume isn't terrible, the static bonus armor does nothing for you and having static strength is actually quite a large boost. Also, since you are transitioning from Prot, it's not too big a deal yet until you feel as if you're are underperforming to a very high degree.


I noticed you are using ability_paladin_seraphim.jpgSeraphim for this fight, which isn't terrible for Iskar only because before Iskar does Shadow Escape, he is completely alone, but you were only able to maintain about 25% uptime on it, which is about only half as much uptime you should be getting (you should aim for 45-50%). I would recommend using ability_paladin_finalverdict.jpgFinal Verdict for this fight since add management is a very important aspect of Iskar. During add phase, always weave ability_paladin_finalverdict.jpgFinal Verdict and ability_paladin_divinestorm.jpgDivine Storm, even if you don't have ability_paladin_divinestorm.jpgDivine Crusader up. The ability_paladin_finalverdict.jpgFinal Verdict buff is a critical part of improving your AoE potential. I would, however, say it's okay to spam ability_paladin_divinestorm.jpgDivine Storm when you don't think you'll have time to get another ability_paladin_divinestorm.jpgDivine Storm after using ability_paladin_finalverdict.jpgFinal Verdict.


Also, since you have some time, switch to spell_holy_righteousnessaura.jpgSeal of Righteousness right after Iskar uses Shadow Escape. It was also help your AoE a lot. This is even more so when you get Empty Drinking Horn, which is a solid 10% boost to your DPS. Without it, you'll always be about 8-10% lower than DPS who do have it.


I also can't tell if your flasked or not? If not, then I would use a strength flask. Don't underestimate 250 strength. Your stat distribution looks fine. You have quite a bit of haste, but that's not a huge loss. 20% crit is good since you have 10% multistrike. And you have a decently high mastery. I would recommend switching slowly to multstrike above crit, but they are both very close on sims, so the difference can be negligible, but I feel multistrike is more consistent.


I can't see too much information on your rotation, so it's hard to help you there unless you provide a little more info yourself. I do see that your spell_paladin_hammerofwrath.jpgHammer of Wrath damage is quite low. It should never be higher than your melee strikes, which makes me think that you're not using it nearly as much as you should. Since you had 2pc Tier, it should almost always be 2nd or 3rd. In this case, 3rd is okay to ability_paladin_divinestorm.jpgDivine Storm since it's an add fight.


I'd like to help you more, but since it's been a week since then, I'd like to hear some of your comments and maybe see some updated progress? Also, if you can, use Warcraft logs since Mr. Robot doesn't contain as much information.

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