Zagam going Destruction (46 replies to this topic)

I'm in, logs are on.

shit, maybe I should have streamed.  Did 157k to Stone Guard because stacking Chaos Bolts on two targets is awesome.  I forgot my Grim of Sac buff until Feng hit 55%, so my DPS looks poopy there =(

http://www.worldoflo.../?s=1307&e=1663

Destro log for 4/6H MSV.  Ignore the wipes, people were playing AWFUL tonight.  Also had some bad internet issues causing some delays.  Notes:

Stone Guard: Destro is awesome for two targets.  Stack embers, use Rain of Fire on the two dogs, use Havoc on one dog, Chaos Bolt the other...do this on cooldown.  Never had mana issues spamming Incinerate.  Can armory me, not changing my stats for reference on how I'm reforged (full Mastery).

Feng: meh.  Standard single target.  I'll have to dig up an Affliction parse, but Destro felt fine.  Parse here looks bad because I didn't summon a pet out until Feng was at 55%.  Note to self: when you change a talent, Grim of Sacrifice disables.

Gara'jal: Would NOT recommend Destruction.  Multi-dotting as Destro in the Shadow Realm left something to be desired.  Fire and Brimstone: Immolate, Rain of Fire, and Bane + Chaos Bolt did some work, but it sure was more challenging than Affliction.  However, with Shadowburn, you can build 4 Embers quick, come out with a buff, pop Dark Soul, and land 4 800k Chaos Bolts.  Pretty nice, but you leave a lot to be desired by not having DoTs on Gara'jal as you go down to the Shadow Realm.

Elegon: Affliction potential is MUCH higher and much easier to get to.  Rain of Fire is quite epic as Destro for inter-phases, but nothing to write home about.  Seeing 1M Chaos Bolts is fun, but hardly worth it.  Might become easier with repetition.

Will of Emps: This is a multi-DoT fight.  Don't be Destro.  I did it and talked about how we will be doing Heroic Blade Lord and Wind Lord.  Didn't do much of anything else haha

Eat your hearts out, take the logs for what they are worth.

Those are pretty damn good numbers for a first time parsing with a new spec.  Fights like Stone Guard make it look OP.  Ignoring Feng... the spikes on Gara'jal are pretty massive.  No, you won't have DoTs ticking when you go spirit realm, but that goes with the spec.  Pretty sure you make up for it when you come out after using multiple Shadowburns.  I think Elegon could be pretty solid with Destro.  You could use Havoc more than you did on sparks/celestial protectors.  Same thing for Will - I think you'd almost want to use it on CD, even if you don't use a single Chaos Bolt.  Unless you generated enough Embers quickly enough with the amount of haste you're carrying?  Dark Soul would then end up being used with every third Havoc (with 4-Piece bonus).

I really haven't been playing much WoW recently.  Just logging in, doing farmville for raiding mats, and logging.  The rest of my time has been in the Path of Exile.  You obviously love theorycrafting.  If you love ARPG's as well, I HIGHLY suggest it.  The passive skill "web" is a theorycrafters dream (or nightmare?).  So so so much better than D3 (in my opinion).

Yeah, I think Warlocks sim about 2k within each other on two target fights.  Destro has Havoc, Demo can apply Doom to both, and Affliction rolls DoTs.  The spikes on Gara'jal are KB sniping with Shadowburn followed up with DS + 4 Chaos Bolts.  Looks impressive, but felt lackluster.  On Elegon, I chose NOT to do the Havoc CBs to the Celestial Protectors because we were DPSing them down too fast.  If you look, you can see I still did over 24% of the overall damage to the sparks by using my embers on Fire and Brimstone: Immolate to get Immo on all of the charges as well as a Mannoroth's Fury Rain of Fire on all the sparks on my side.

Destro can be played well...Brusalk is now 16/16H (best Destro Warlock who talks on forums, mostly MMO-Champ) and he said that he did Destro for all of their first kills except for Will of the Emp and Protectors (massively multi-target fights).   It's not like Arms Warriors where you simply can't play like that, so Warlocks can play any spec they like...but man is Affliction sweet.  I even dumped Haste and went full Mastery and saw an increase in my single target damage.  My numbers were massive last night.  I'll stay on top of things as Warlock notes become more accessible.  So far, the only change made is they gave our silence back that they originally took away which has no bearing on PvE at all.

Okay.  That makes sense for Elegon - the Sparks bit is pretty funny.  I'm curious how you handle heroic sparks as Affliction.  We dedicate a dps to each one, and if I end up not having a soul shard, I find myself screwed on taking mine down.

As Affliction, make sure you Drain Soul the last Protector to have 4 Shards.  Reset your stacks while applying Agony, Corruption, and UA to Elegon.  Time a Soulburn: Seed of Corruption to land on him as his Draw Power spell is finished so that your Seed lands just before the Charges form so that the seed blows up as the Charges appear...bam, Corruption on 7 targets (Elegon + 6 Charges).  This uses one Soul Shard.  I then Soulburn: Soul Swap my dedicated charge and light it up with MG.  This leaves me with 2 shards and whatever Nightfall procs I get.  Since Corruption ticks every 1.8 seconds for me and I have it on 7 targets, I have 5% chance for each of my 7 Corruptions to generate a Shard every 1.8 seconds for about 5.4 seconds.  Statistically speaking, this gives you about an 85% chance to get AT LEAST 1 shard.  If I've generated enough shards to get back to 3 or 4, then I reset my stacks, reapply Agony and UA and time my Soulburn: SoC to land again.  If I generate no Shards, I reapply Agony only and do a Drain Soul cast to generate a Shard.  If you have at least 2 shards, you can do enough to put Corr on all the Charges while having a SB:SS for yours.  If you do 5 or 6 waves, you'll want Haunt for those Charges, so you'll have to monitor your situation as things speed up dramatically there.  I'm always top damage on these guys by a mile and a half.  Let me show you Aff vs Destro for just that part of the fight:

Destro: http://www.worldoflo...9310&target=131
(I forgot to log our Heroic Elegon kills when I was Affliction, so here's a normal parse, same idea)
Affliction: http://www.worldoflo...6499&target=207

For Destro, I did 11M while 2nd place did 7M.  For Aff, I did 11M while 2nd place did 4M (Normal requires less damage).  I'll log an Affliction parse on Tuesday and will likely push 13 or 14M then.