Jump to content
FORUMS
Damien

Enhancement Shaman 7.3

Recommended Posts

9 hours ago, Digitalneo said:

Could someone elaborate on why we should take Empowered Stormlash over Tempest for raiding?

I understand that Empowered Stormlash is useful to others, but how is it useful to me or my raiding performance? As far as I can tell, I receive no buff from Stormlash, much less the Empowered version.

I feel as if my raid damage / burst-potential would be much higher if I raided with Tempest, especially when I get my artifact and gain much more mastery/haste in Legion. Right now sure, its a bit rough using Tempest because I don't gain that much Maelstrom from Rockbiter/Boulderfist, but as I gain more maelstrom from Windfury autos due to artifact, using all 3x Stormstrikes should be easy.

So is it purely altruism or an assumption on the part of the raid leader to only take Enhance shaman who are altruistic?

All the damage from Stormlash is attributed to you, so you're not losing damage and giving it to others. In Legion you take Tempest in every situation so I wouldn't worry about it, new guide should be live within a few hours.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest seacow

Quick Q on the artifact trait "weapons of the elements": Does it only apply to the initial hit/cast from Flametongue and Frostbrand? Or does it affect all the individual hit procs from Flametongue and/or, if talented, Hailstorm?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, Guest seacow said:

Quick Q on the artifact trait "weapons of the elements": Does it only apply to the initial hit/cast from Flametongue and Frostbrand? Or does it affect all the individual hit procs from Flametongue and/or, if talented, Hailstorm?

The upkeep as well.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest Gor

Hey, just wondering if the 17% initial haste cap still applies since the update to this guide?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Great guide as usual, and I'm having a blast questing through Broken Isles (106 right now) following it.

I really wanted to pick up my Shaman for Legion, so I used the Boost on him (he was parked at 80 since WotLK, and I don't have the nerve to level yet another character through the awfully bad Cataclysm zones). I have a couple of questions:

- I haven't played since Cata, and was pleasantly surprised that melee combat feels so much more fluid, and "direct" now. That said, is it still enough to pull mobs, and click priorities/rotations to mow down mobs while standing still, except for a couple telegraphed AoEs? Or is it possible with melee classes to mitigate melee damage by keeping on he move, dancing around mobs (like in TESO, and FFXIV to some degree)?

- Noxxic's Shaman guide (pretty much the only other one beside Icy-Veins) lists Haste over Mastery in their stat priorities. I know while leveling it doesn't really matter, since you just gear up, and take what you get as long as it's higher in iLvl, but for 110 dungeons, and raids, I'd like to know what I should gear for. Haste>Mastery like Noxxic or Haste ~60% of Mastery like you advise?

 

Thanks for all your work, been a regular visitor for D3, HotS, and WoW for a couple years now.

Edited by phl0w

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
30 minutes ago, Digitalneo said:

A question on the stat priority:

Is a ratio of 3:1 Mastery/Haste still suggested? That seems to have been removed from the guide.

It's in the guide: it says your Haste should be 60-65% of your Mastery rating for optimal scaling

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest Torolf
On 01/09/2016 at 9:39 AM, phl0w said:

- Noxxic's Shaman guide (pretty much the only other one beside Icy-Veins) lists Haste over Mastery in their stat priorities. I know while leveling it doesn't really matter, since you just gear up, and take what you get as long as it's higher in iLvl, but for 110 dungeons, and raids, I'd like to know what I should gear for. Haste>Mastery like Noxxic or Haste ~60% of Mastery like you advise?

I won't answer any of your questions but I do like to suggest that you AVOID Noxxic like the plague, as it has time and time again proven to provide misinformation.

These links also provide several links to help players who are looking for more informations.

https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/4x6pi6/remember_to_avoid_noxxiccom/

https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/4avzv5/psa_to_new_players_do_not_use_noxxic/

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I'm not going to criticize Noxxic, because I don't think it's my place as the co-owner/founder of Icy Veins. I'll just say that it's very difficult to maintain accurate guides. We have some of the best players/theorycrafters working on some of our class guides (with the goal being to have them all written by such people in the near future). They too can make mistakes and WoW players in general aren't very forgiving when it happens :p I know Noxxic doesn't use top players or anything like this, so it's an even harder task for them.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest Kueckling

Hi, nice Guide!

 

but i still have a question about the stat priorities.

can anyone provide me the right stat weights for tis build?

like:  Agility [9.03] > Haste [7.53] > Mastery [6.03] > Crit [4.53] > Versatility [3.03]

because i want to use the addon Pawn, for easy upgrade tracking. And i cand find any weights but the one posted.

 

thanks in advance!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Quick question about opening rotation: Why cast Flametongue before Boulderfist? I would think, based on the rest of the guide and the applicable buffs, that you would want Boulderfist applied first.

Thanks for the great guide.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest Small error in guide
  • Sundering Icon Sundering does massive physical damage in a line and knocks enemies to either side, however, it has a 45-second cooldown.

Just for the sake of completeness: This spell has a 40-second cooldown.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest Curix Draenor

Hey,

How would you rate Six-Feather Fan? 1k Agi with a chance to proc 6 strikes for 60+k Nature damage without factoring in Mastery?

Thanks.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
14 hours ago, brbcoffee said:

Quick question about opening rotation: Why cast Flametongue before Boulderfist? I would think, based on the rest of the guide and the applicable buffs, that you would want Boulderfist applied first.

Thanks for the great guide.

It's nice to have up for the burst to follow and it can be cast while running in due to the increased range (though this is also true of Boulderfist). It also lasts longer and once your cooldowns are out and Doom Winds is up you'll want to be spamming more consumers as opposed to refreshing Boulderfist earlier.

13 hours ago, Guest Small error in guide said:
  • Sundering Icon Sundering does massive physical damage in a line and knocks enemies to either side, however, it has a 45-second cooldown.

Just for the sake of completeness: This spell has a 40-second cooldown.

Will make some quick edits when I can, thanks.

54 minutes ago, Guest Curix Draenor said:

Hey,

How would you rate Six-Feather Fan? 1k Agi with a chance to proc 6 strikes for 60+k Nature damage without factoring in Mastery?

Thanks.

It's usable but not exceptional when compared with some of the other available choices (Chaos Talisman, Horn of Valor, Faulty Countermeasure, etc.).

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest Wrsx

Hi, can anyone clarify with me why it's Crashing Storm > Lava lash in pure single target? Lava lash is literally way more damage for only slightly more maelstrom.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
23 hours ago, Guest Wrsx said:

Hi, can anyone clarify with me why it's Crashing Storm > Lava lash in pure single target? Lava lash is literally way more damage for only slightly more maelstrom.

Because of the lightning zone from Crashing Storm.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest Trinkless
On 9/9/2016 at 9:48 AM, Guest Wrsx said:

Hi, can anyone clarify with me why it's Crashing Storm > Lava lash in pure single target? Lava lash is literally way more damage for only slightly more maelstrom.

Because of the artifact trait that increases the damage of the next stormstrike

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

can noone provide stat weights for pawn? im a noob and i dont wanna minmax,..i just want to have a little indicator to what item is potentionally better

 

ty

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
21 hours ago, Kueckling said:

can noone provide stat weights for pawn? im a noob and i dont wanna minmax,..i just want to have a little indicator to what item is potentionally better

 

ty

We generally stay away from the specific stat weights, since they not only change for each person depending on gear, but they also are incredibly difficult to maintain as a general piece of information. We'll see what we can do, but no promises, sorry!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 hours ago, Blainie said:

We generally stay away from the specific stat weights, since they not only change for each person depending on gear, but they also are incredibly difficult to maintain as a general piece of information. We'll see what we can do, but no promises, sorry!

ok :) thank you

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest Linatic

Could you ellaborate on why you should take crashing storm instead of e.g. sundering?

 

27k damage over 6 seconds seems like waay too little :(dw

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest Zig
On 9/9/2016 at 9:48 AM, Guest Wrsx said:

Hi, can anyone clarify with me why it's Crashing Storm > Lava lash in pure single target? Lava lash is literally way more damage for only slightly more maelstrom.

Crash Lightning is more damage per maelstrom spent than Lava Lash, as well as increasing the damage of your next StormStrike by 6% (up to 12% with relics) per target hit - here we count 1 target. If you take into account that the only reason you'll spend your whole maelstrom bar is to spam stormstrike, if you're not in a situation where you can spam it, you want to deal  the maximum amount of damage per maelstrom spent, instead of maximum damage per GCD since you want to keep a high amount of maelstrom for those Stormbringer procs.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest Poobah

Question and a suggestion -

To what degree should I prioritise the stat priorities and maintaining haste being under mastery vs ilevel upgrades and such, and how much worse than mastery/haste are crit and versatility? So much mail gear doesn't have both of our best stats on which is really frustrating.

Suggestion / additional question - have you considered the "Devilsaur Shock Baton" to the recommended items gear list. The base damage on it is great and when enhanced by mastery it makes up a significant chunk of damage; I haven't managed to get a decent level faulty countermeasure to compare it with yet but from my play with it it seems to be really up there in terms of damage output from a trinket slot.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest Greg

Is Frostbrand still part of my rotation if I talent Ancestral Swiftness instead of Hailstorm?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.

  • Similar Content

    • By Stan
      We've looked at the Mythic+ Tier List for the first time in Patch 10.2.6!
      DISCLAIMER
      The following post is based on data from U.GG. Therefore, the data presented here may differ from Petko's Mythic Tier Lists maintained on our site.
      How the Data is Calculated
      U.GG's tier list is created by evaluating damage and healing scores from the very best players and factoring in the frequency of each spec's appearances in the highest rankings of the current Mythic+ season. The tier list of each spec is determined by its effectiveness and prevalence at the highest levels of Mythic+ play.
      Mythic+ Tier List for Dragonflight Season 3 Week 20
      This week's affixes are: Tyrannical, Afflicted, and Bolstering.
      Healer Tier List
      S-Tier Mistweaver Monk A-Tier: Restoration Druid Discipline Priest Holy Priest B-Tier: Restoration Shaman Preservation Evoker C-Tier: Holy Paladin
      Tank Tier List
      S-Tier: Vengeance Demon Hunter A-Tier: Protection Paladin Blood Death Knight B-Tier: Guardian Druid Brewmaster Monk C-Tier Protection Warrior (down from B-Tier)
      DPS Tier List
      S-Tier: Retribution Paladin Shadow Priest (up from A-Tier) Fire Mage A-Tier: Outlaw Rogue Havoc Demon Hunter (down from S-Tier) Augmentation Evoker Demonology Warlock Fury Warrior Beast Mastery Hunter Balance Druid Destruction Warlock Arms Warrior (up from B-Tier) B-Tier: Windwalker Monk (down from A-Tier) Elemental Shaman Unholy Death Knight Enhancement Shaman Frost Mage Survival Hunter Frost Death Knight Marksmanship Hunter (up from C-Tier) Feral Druid  C-Tier: Arcane Mage (down from B-Tier) Devastation Evoker Subtlety Rogue Affliction Warlock Assassination Rogue
    • By Staff
      Here's a video explaining all Plunderstorm skills under 10 minutes.
      Whether you're a seasoned player in need of a quick refresher on what Plunderstorm brings to the table, or you're new to the game mode altogether, this video has you covered. It breaks down each ability in detail, thanks to BBB.
    • By Staff
      Dragonflight Season 4 adds a new world quest for Spark of Awakening.
      To get your Spark of Awakening, you must complete a different quest every week.
      The weekly quest is available from Therazal in central Valdrakken. There are 3 options, but only one is active every week, similar to how Awakened raids rotate.

      Dragon Isles Quest
      Participate in a Community Feast Participate in a Hunt Lay siege to Dragonbane Keep Zaralek Cavern Quest
      Protect the Researchers Under Fire Loot a Secured Shipment (Suffusion Camp) Complete a Time Rift Amirdrassil Quest
      Earn 50 Bloom during the Superbloom Complete a Superbloom Plant 3 Dreamseeds Quest Rewards
      Completing any of the 3 quests above grants the Season 4 spark fragment (Splintered Spark of Awakening) via Weekly Awakened Activity and a Cache of Awakened Storms.
      You will need two Splintered Spark of Awakening and 250 Flightstones to create one Spark of Awakening.

    • By Stan
      Super Squirt is available on NA servers today, allowing you to reach max level with your pets in just two battles!
      The so-called "Super Squirt Day" has arrived on NA realms today.
      You will find Squirt in the Garrison Menagerie, but you will need a Level 3 Garrison. Use your Garrison Hearthstone toy to get to your WoD Garrison.
      You can combine this week's event buff, Sign of the Critter, with other items like Safari Hat toy and pet treats (Lesser Pet Treat / Pet Treat) for even more XP bonus, which results in your pets reaching max level in just 2 battles!
      Head over to Petopia to read some strategies on how to defeat Squirt!

    • By Starym
      Today's hotfixes are still very Plunderstorm-heavy, but we do get fixes for more achievement-related mount issues and PvP catch-up, in addition to the limited time event's adjustments.
      March 27 (Source)
      Achievements
      Fixed bugs causing mounts related to A World Awoken to be unavailable, including Bestowed Ottuk Vanguard, Bestowed Trawling Mammoth, Bestowed Thunderspine Packleader, Bestowed Sandskimmer, Bestowed Ohuna Spotter, Coralscale Salamanther, Stormtouched Bruffalon, and Taivan. Player versus Player
      Fixed an issue that prevented Splintered Sparks of Dreams from dropping from PvP sources while eligible for catch-up. Plunderstorm
      The Storm’s fury swells! Lightning strikes during the final stage of the Storm are faster and more dangerous than before. There is now a delay of 20 seconds after being revived where players no longer drop collected Plunder. Additional enemies now spawn at Witherbark Village, the wild area northeast of Go’Shek Farm, and the wild area between Witherbark Village and Boulderfist Hall. Fixed an issue where swapping back to default sword and gun appearances were not saving correctly. Fixed an issue so that now, picking up an additional rank 2 spell while the same rank 2 spell is equipped properly grants the rank 4 version of the spell. The Captain’s Orders quest “X Marks the Spot” now requires 1 item to be picked up (was 2 items).
×
×
  • Create New...