Enhancement Shaman 7.3

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Generic comment being mass posted over the comments threads guys.

We are aware of the changes and our writers are working hard to update the guides to suit what has changed. Currently, there is a lot of work still to be done and it's unlikely that every guide will be up-to-date immediately. Expect a flood of updates over the coming days that will answer all of your questions about what is now best after X change, in time for the reset next week.

Thanks for your understanding and patience.

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17 hours ago, Guest arachyr said:

I'm having a very hard time figuring out trinkets. Simcraft & mr robot say contradictory things. Some questions:

1) does the brutal haymaker total damage show up in skada/recount, or only the initial burst and is the vulnerability counted under 'attack'?

2) Is horn of valor actually worth it? 30s/2min for the stat gives quite a poor average increase.

3) is the six-feathered fan really worth the farm?

4) when are raw stats better than a dmg proc?

1 - Damage meters are only showing the initial hit, on the other hand Logs are currently adding the damage contributed by additional hits while active.

2 - Horn of Valor syncs up with Feral Spirit, but generally speaking is quite average

3 - Six-Feathered Fan can't really be farmed as it's a world drop. It is however the best trinket choice assuming equal item level. Whether you can get your hands on one that titanforges that high however is another question.

4 - That's a really arbitrary line to draw, it depends on the items and the procs. There's no hard rule for something as fluid as trinkets.

[Guest Iveny]

I may be blind, but the hailstorm talent enhances frostbrand, but I cannot see the abitlity even mentioned in the abilities section of the guide for enhancers....

Am only a starter on Enhancer but saw many posts elsewhere that it's used in raids. So when am  I using it? Is it worth using if you do not use the hailstorm talent? The guide does not say....

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2 hours ago, Guest Iveny said:

I may be blind, but the hailstorm talent enhances frostbrand, but I cannot see the abitlity even mentioned in the abilities section of the guide for enhancers....

Am only a starter on Enhancer but saw many posts elsewhere that it's used in raids. So when am  I using it? Is it worth using if you do not use the hailstorm talent? The guide does not say....

Copy and pasted from the rotation guide:

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1. Maintain the  Boulderfist and  Landslide buffs.
2. Maintain the  Hailstorm buff (if talented) with  Frostbrand.

Hope this helps!

[Guest Nevully]

Hi guys, are the changes they are doing to doomwinds and windfury a dps increase for us? I imagine the burst might be lower on those 6 seconds but in overall, is it better? Does it encourage even more Hailstorm over Ancestral Swiftness?

[Guest Guest]

Why is Matted Fur Pauldrons in the BiS list and not Thorny Bramblemail Pauldrons from Cenarius?

[Guest Shivas]

Hello everyone,

Little question about BiS list : Why some pieces of the BiS list have crit / mastery instead of mastery / haste which is, according to the stat weight / priority, better ? Do we need some crit at EN Mythics end gear level or it's because haste start to drastically decrease after a certain % ?

Sorry for my english :3

Thanks in advance !

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11 hours ago, Guest Nevully said:

Hi guys, are the changes they are doing to doomwinds and windfury a dps increase for us? I imagine the burst might be lower on those 6 seconds but in overall, is it better? Does it encourage even more Hailstorm over Ancestral Swiftness?

Judging by the update to the guide yesterday, it looks like Furty has now updated the guide with any changes. I will double check with him and let you know. 

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2 hours ago, Guest Guest said:

Why is Matted Fur Pauldrons in the BiS list and not Thorny Bramblemail Pauldrons from Cenarius?

This is most likely due to different stats having higher/lower weights at different gear levels. I will check with Furty anyway to see if this is simply a mistake.

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1 hour ago, Guest Shivas said:

Hello everyone,

Little question about BiS list : Why some pieces of the BiS list have crit / mastery instead of mastery / haste which is, according to the stat weight / priority, better ? Do we need some crit at EN Mythics end gear level or it's because haste start to drastically decrease after a certain % ?

Sorry for my english :3

Thanks in advance !

See my above comment, thanks!

[brbcoffee 0]

Is it important to cast Doom Winds just as the main hand swing timer is about to complete? I.e. Since Windfury procs on main hand attacks, we want to activate Doom Winds just before a main hand auto attack..?

 

Thanks!

Edited September 28, 2016 by brbcoffee
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5 hours ago, brbcoffee said:

Is it important to cast Doom Winds just as the main hand swing timer is about to complete? I.e. Since Windfury procs on main hand attacks, we want to activate Doom Winds just before a main hand auto attack..?

 

Thanks!

The most important time to cast Doomwinds is when you get the attack speed buff from Doombringer. That trumps everything

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8 hours ago, brbcoffee said:

Is it important to cast Doom Winds just as the main hand swing timer is about to complete? I.e. Since Windfury procs on main hand attacks, we want to activate Doom Winds just before a main hand auto attack..?

 

Thanks!

If you can time it that well, then yes. Most important thing is to try dump your Maelstrom so you don't cap out.

[Guest Stat Weights]

Are you able to post the actual stat weights calculated between each. Similar to what was done for the fire mage stats? I know the ratio was given, but I'd like to see the relation between all if someone has 'em!

Thanks!

[Guest Papirus]

I may be wrong but... log says last update is in august, by the launch of Legion, but I would swear I saw as second priority haste until 17%, and now it says 1 int, 2 mastery, 3 haste... Is there any mistake or am I the one missing something? :O

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11 hours ago, Guest Stat Weights said:

Are you able to post the actual stat weights calculated between each. Similar to what was done for the fire mage stats? I know the ratio was given, but I'd like to see the relation between all if someone has 'em!

Thanks!

Hey there!

I can ask to see if general weights can be put up, but they are only as accurate as a "general" weight can be (weights can't apply to an 810 and 870 Shaman in the same way). Your best bet for getting correct weights would be to simulate your own character using SimCraft.

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9 hours ago, Guest Papirus said:

I may be wrong but... log says last update is in august, by the launch of Legion, but I would swear I saw as second priority haste until 17%, and now it says 1 int, 2 mastery, 3 haste... Is there any mistake or am I the one missing something? :O

There have indeed been updates since then. Your best bet for finding the most up-to-date listing of changes is via this link:

https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/changelog

It shows every change made to the guides of the sites for WoW.

[Guest Ikarigami]

Hi guys,

First, thanks a lot for the guide. Really appreciate it.

Second, I've got 2 questions about rotation:

1. What do you do if you're about to cap maelstrom and Boulderfist/Landslide buff is about to expire. Do you just go ahead and hit Boulderfist?
2. I still kind of confused with Doom Winds. It says that it triggers Windfury for all auto-attacks and increases damage for Windfury procs. Does that mean that I should just auto-attack when Doom Winds is active, and nothing else?

Thanks

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12 hours ago, Guest Ikarigami said:

Hi guys,

First, thanks a lot for the guide. Really appreciate it.

Second, I've got 2 questions about rotation:

1. What do you do if you're about to cap maelstrom and Boulderfist/Landslide buff is about to expire. Do you just go ahead and hit Boulderfist?
2. I still kind of confused with Doom Winds. It says that it triggers Windfury for all auto-attacks and increases damage for Windfury procs. Does that mean that I should just auto-attack when Doom Winds is active, and nothing else?

Thanks

1. Lava Lash to burn a small amount of Maelstrom, then refresh.
2. Your auto attacks continue regardless of what you are doing, as long as you are in-range of the boss and not casting/channeling a spell.

 Hope this helps!

[Sl0th 0]

I took Boulderfist out and switched Hot Hand in to test. I know that boulderfist is loved by many but I find myself always waiting  for its cooldown (even if it is only for a small amount of time). I also found myself pretty much never using Lava Lash because of its shit damage. The only time I would use it is if I had max maelstrom, but that usually isn't the case if I'm doing my rotation right. So, I switched out boulderfist for my WQ's for today and put hot hand in. Although I wasn't getting the 5% damage and crit increase, I was doing a lot more damage. Lava Lash was now an actual move that was good. The proc comes a lot because you should always have Flametounge active in fights (no excuse not to). The 100% damage increase on lash really helps and makes it just as/if not more damaging than Stormstrike. 

 

I noticed so many guides have Boulderfist as the go to talent, but if you want to give hot hand a try, I really suggest it.

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On 9/30/2016 at 1:22 PM, Sl0th said:

I was doing a lot more damage

Just did some quick simming to take a look and see how the two perform. You're losing around 7% DPS by taking Hot Hand, so I'm not sure how you were using Boulderfist previously that was causing problems. 

[Guest New trinket ?]

Just noticed the new trinket only drop if you have elemental as loot spec, is that right?

http://www.wowdb.com/items/139321-swarming-plaguehive?bonusIDs=1806

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2 hours ago, Guest New trinket ? said:

Just noticed the new trinket only drop if you have elemental as loot spec, is that right?

http://www.wowdb.com/items/139321-swarming-plaguehive?bonusIDs=1806

It does look like it, yes. That's pretty annoying!

[Guest Zurq]

I received Swarming Plaguehive (Heroic) with enchancement loot chosen.

[Menegroth 0]

Hello!  Making my way back to the game after a 6 year hiatus and luckily I ran into this wonderful guide.  I am just getting underway and wanted to use the add-ons suggested.  Question - for elvUI, there seem to be several listed at curse.  Do you suggest all of them, or is there just one that should be downloaded.

 

Thanks!