Unholy Death Knight 7.3

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1 hour ago, arson94 said:

I have Ursoc's Rending Paw.  The bleed proc definitely sucks but it does have the static strength on it.  I use it cause mine's Heroic Titanforged to ilvl 895 so it has 1875 strength on it.  Can't be that bad  at that ilvl, right?

I'm sure with such a high proc and so much Strength, it must be worth something, yeah.

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5 hours ago, arson94 said:

I have Ursoc's Rending Paw.  The bleed proc definitely sucks but it does have the static strength on it.  I use it cause mine's Heroic Titanforged to ilvl 895 so it has 1875 strength on it.  Can't be that bad  at that ilvl, right?

I don't understand what other trinkets do you have ? It's a known thing that the Ursoc's trinket proc is garbage but in your case the strength you have on it probably outscales everything else.

[Zataron 5]

Hi Tegu,

So on the PTR, the 4 part bonus of our tier set was changed to generate wounds instead of bursting them: http://ptr.wowhead.com/item-set=1281/dreadwyrm-battleplate

What's your opinion on this? How big a difference do you think the UH set bonuses are gonna make in general?

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33 minutes ago, Zataron said:

Hi Tegu,

So on the PTR, the 4 part bonus of our tier set was changed to generate wounds instead of bursting them: http://ptr.wowhead.com/item-set=1281/dreadwyrm-battleplate

What's your opinion on this? How big a difference do you think the UH set bonuses are gonna make in general?

I actually like it a lot because we are swimming in Runic Power and we can easily pop the Festering Wounds but building them is a problem especially with the random element of Castigator so in my opinion that change is better for us.

[Guest Terbin]

Tegu, Would it be possible for you to upload your pawn strings, if you have them? if theyve already been uploaded just direct me tpo them, thank you

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18 minutes ago, Guest Terbin said:

Tegu, Would it be possible for you to upload your pawn strings, if you have them? if theyve already been uploaded just direct me tpo them, thank you

Don't have and not using pawn.

Update: Apparently when we did PTR today with my guild i found that Soul Reaper is changed (7.1) so that if you have Festering Wounds on the target  plus Soul reaper when it dies you get the haste buff based on your Festering Wound procs (capped at 3 obviously)

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When will you update your guide? Or is it already state of affairs?

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4 hours ago, Guest update said:

When will you update your guide? Or is it already state of affairs?

I sent them the information with what needs updating, it's up to them when they are actually gonna release it.

[Guest Succ]

Thanks for the answer Tegu!

Another question:

Is it true, that the stat rates change as soon as you get the legendary bracer? 

(so crit is no longer top but mastery now for that or something like that)

I heard something like that from a raid mate.

Cya!

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2 hours ago, Guest Succ said:

Thanks for the answer Tegu!

Another question:

Is it true, that the stat rates change as soon as you get the legendary bracer? 

(so crit is no longer top but mastery now for that or something like that)

I heard something like that from a raid mate.

Cya!

That happens only if you switch to Unholy Frenzy for whatever reason then you don't need to stack crit but i think Castigator is still better since it's easy to pop the FW's but  dificult to stack them fast enough especially without Castigator. Don't have the bracers so cant test it.

[Stealthy 0]

Hey Tegu,

I'm trying to decide on what trinkets to use. Currently i have 

880 nightmare shell

870 ursoc paw w/socket

860 terrorbound nexus 

860 arcanocrystal

& 855 memento

Any advice on which two to use. Im thinking arcano and terrorbound nexus but im not rly sure. 

Currently 878 ilvl 33% crit 18% haste 59% master with arcano and nexus equipped. 

Edited October 19, 2016 by Stealthy

[Zataron 5]

In the most recent PTR build, death coil damage is buffed by 50%: http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/6045-Hallow-s-End-Patch-7-1-PTR-Build-22864-WoW-Cookbook-Battleground-Event

First of all, how big of a difference do you think this will make? Secondly, if this change goes through, do you think it'll be worth it to get Deadliest Coil in the artifact weapon before going Deadly Durability -> Double Doom?

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7 hours ago, Stealthy said:

Hey Tegu,

I'm trying to decide on what trinkets to use. Currently i have 

880 nightmare shell

870 ursoc paw w/socket

860 terrorbound nexus 

860 arcanocrystal

& 855 memento

Any advice on which two to use. Im thinking arcano and terrorbound nexus but im not rly sure. 

Currently 878 ilvl 33% crit 18% haste 59% master with arcano and nexus equipped. 

Terrobound Nexus is good only for mythic + imo  go with Arcanocrystal and not sure about the 2nd one probably Nightmare Shell.

1 hour ago, Zataron said:

In the most recent PTR build, death coil damage is buffed by 50%: http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/6045-Hallow-s-End-Patch-7-1-PTR-Build-22864-WoW-Cookbook-Battleground-Event

First of all, how big of a difference do you think this will make? Secondly, if this change goes through, do you think it'll be worth it to get Deadliest Coil in the artifact weapon before going Deadly Durability -> Double Doom?

How big ? i don't know you can easily check your death coil damage done add the 40-50% more damage you will eventually be getting from it and see the results for yourself. Not sure about the traits but Deadliest Coil might be better unless you are playing Dark Arbiter. Either way people are gonna have probably both Double Doom & Deadliest Coil by then.

[tuvarkz 0]

This has likely been asked before, but regarding the castigator build stat priority: where does haste drop to in value after the soft cap? Below Mastery? Below versa? Also, are there any further soft caps up higher?

In addition, been reading some comments that critical strike drops in value after 30% and if so, does the priority change after that 'soft cap' of sorts?

[Suspektor 0]

Hello 

i noticed that the stat prio on IV site is str>haste>mastery>ctir>vers but at foroums ppl are going for str>ctir>mastery>haste>vers

what is the best one?

 

Edited October 19, 2016 by Suspektor

[Guest Muzgu]

Hello fellow DK's and theorycrafters. 

So right now im confused, when we have a proc of Scourge of Worlds (bonus SS damage). 

• is it actually worth to overcap runic power and keep spamming SS?
• even without wounds on the target?
• if we sit on 18% haste cap, and stack crit (around 35%), aren't haste-proc-trinkets worth more in case we're soft-capped? those mini-bloodlusts, i even catch myself sometimes having more than 100% haste and sqeezing 2 CD's in a second when i have Chrono-shard + soul reaper procs + BL up. 

those few questions that really bother me. Please share your thoughts. You're doing great job here, appriciate. 

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10 hours ago, tuvarkz said:

This has likely been asked before, but regarding the castigator build stat priority: where does haste drop to in value after the soft cap? Below Mastery? Below versa? Also, are there any further soft caps up higher?

In addition, been reading some comments that critical strike drops in value after 30% and if so, does the priority change after that 'soft cap' of sorts?

Once you get 18-19% haste the value drops and everything else gets better pmuch. I don't think that crit values drop at 30 % you need more because of Castigator.

3 hours ago, Suspektor said:

Hello 

i noticed that the stat prio on IV site is str>haste>mastery>ctir>vers but at foroums ppl are going for str>ctir>mastery>haste>vers

what is the best one?

 

I think you missed the part saying that those stat weights are for Clawing Shadows, we should probably remove them since Clawing Shadows is garbage and seems like people get confused.

2 hours ago, Guest Muzgu said:

Hello fellow DK's and theorycrafters. 

So right now im confused, when we have a proc of Scourge of Worlds (bonus SS damage). 

• is it actually worth to overcap runic power and keep spamming SS?
• even without wounds on the target?
• if we sit on 18% haste cap, and stack crit (around 35%), aren't haste-proc-trinkets worth more in case we're soft-capped? those mini-bloodlusts, i even catch myself sometimes having more than 100% haste and sqeezing 2 CD's in a second when i have Chrono-shard + soul reaper procs + BL up. 

those few questions that really bother me. Please share your thoughts. You're doing great job here, appriciate. 

1) Sometimes you will overcap Runic Power but it's fine as long as you have Festering Wounds to back up the Scourge of Worlds.

2) Don't SS without FW

3) Depends what your trinkets are looking like but there's nothing wrong with having let's say Chrono Shard for example in general there's better trinkets like Arcanocrystal, Darkmoon but also depends of the item level of your trinkets etc.

[Guest MrBrettimus]

Have you figured out a BiS for Unholy DKs yet? Still waiting, even though other classes have theirs up. ATM I'm doing the best i can using the Pawn addon, but id like to know what gear drops im aiming for in regards to when to bonus roll.

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4 hours ago, Guest MrBrettimus said:

Have you figured out a BiS for Unholy DKs yet? Still waiting, even though other classes have theirs up. ATM I'm doing the best i can using the Pawn addon, but id like to know what gear drops im aiming for in regards to when to bonus roll.

Yeah i'm going through all dungeons & Mythic raids because the gear you might get from Mythic + is probably better than the one in EN. I will try to put it by the end of the week.

[Guest Nikol]

I have two items that would change my crit/haste % and I'm confused which is better:

• option A would get me 28% crit 18% haste
• option B would get me 32.28% crit 14.47% haste

Which option should I go with ?

Note: castigator/si/soul reaper build

 

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12 hours ago, Guest Nikol said:

I have two items that would change my crit/haste % and I'm confused which is better:

• option A would get me 28% crit 18% haste
• option B would get me 32.28% crit 14.47% haste

Which option should I go with ?

Note: castigator/si/soul reaper build

 

What is your item level i think i would go for option A for raids and option B for mythic +.

[tuvarkz 0]

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3.3. Army of the Dead

 Army of the Dead summons a number of ghouls to fight at your side for a short while. It has a high Rune cost, but it also deals a lot of damage. You can use it before the pull, but if you require high burst damage during the fight it is perfectly acceptable to channel it during combat.

 

I've tested, and AotD no longer acts as a channel. (Tried moving while the buff was at 3 sec, and using Death and Decay, Outbreak, amongst others, without a reduction in the number of ghouls) Perhaps clarify the wording (by removing 'channel') so that it doesn't cause confusion in some people?

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3 hours ago, tuvarkz said:

 

I've tested, and AotD no longer acts as a channel. (Tried moving while the buff was at 3 sec, and using Death and Decay, Outbreak, amongst others, without a reduction in the number of ghouls) Perhaps clarify the wording (by removing 'channel') so that it doesn't cause confusion in some people?

Seriously from everything in the guide that could have been pointed out  you are picking on the word channel ? 

It will be updated thanks for your feedback.

[Geddya 0]

Hello Tegu and thanks for your great guide.

It's my first time i write here and i would really need ur help...

I feel like i am underperforming to our raids and i really don't know why.. 

Do i need more mastery? cause as i search around dks most of them have around 40%-50% and have lower crit than me and performing better... i thought crit is the way to go.

Any suggestions would be amazing.

 

Here is my log from yesterday's Nythendra Mythic kill: Geddya's log

And here is my armory: Link

Thanks in advance!!

Edited October 25, 2016 by Geddya

[Guest Terbin]

Is there any word on the new Potion coming out with 7.1 and if it is better/worse than old war currently?