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Hello together,

I just came back to playing after a huge break. Basically everyone told me not to play affliction warlock in legion, so I did anyways hehe =(

Ofc I am in a very weak spot now, thank god I have a guild who I can raid with anyways.

My main issue now is: regardless of the weak affliction-specc. Simulation-.-craft.org tells me I can reach 230k DPS. Is this buffed (flask,food etc) because there is no way I can reach this. I can reach like 150k (no buffood,flask etc).

edit: btw I'm not letting dots run out; my gear has the right stats etc 

Second issue: No matter what talents I choose -> the outcame is only a minor difference. I am struggling with the use of contagion and soul effigy (here I don't know which dots i keep going - 35% dmg / global cooldown effectiveness?) because of the much RNG I get (shard generation + soulproccs of artifact).

It feels smoother to just go for absolute corruption and soul conduit because I can just use shards+souls together without hoping for frequent proccs of both simultaniously.

Glad I take all advice you can give me.

+ I just hope for another big patch of course. But I guess none is coming before few weeks of raiding. 

Sincere regards a PvE-newcomer/comeback amateur hehe :(

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Depending on the Talent row, the difference can range from minor to extremely huge. For pure single target the most important talent is using Siphon Lifea and Soul Effigy, the other are close in a 1-2% margin.

Despite that, there are are many factors to consider why your dps are not the 230k affliction can reach. Compare the gear you wear with the gear on the Simulationcraft site that was used for the simulation.

There are stats that are massively stronger than others and the Sim is equipped with the best possible gear at the given Item level. Also, Simulations include using flasks, bufffood and potions.

My guesses are, you don't wear Best in Slot gear, you have not picked the same Artifact Traits (or your Weapon is underleveled / weaker Relics) and you don't execute the the APL correctly. Even if you do your rotation properly, the former 2 have a great effect on your actual output.

Last but not least, there is already a Help my DPS Thread, which you can consult for further help. There is also a rule -

DO NOT ask why your DPS is low and provide nothing for us to analyse it with

You provide no information here to analyse. I advise you to learn to read the Simulationcraft Output properly, then you can exactly see the differences between the character that was used for the simulation and the character you play. There are many sources out there that can help you with that.

//Edit:

Saying that your gear has the right stats and you don't do rotation mistakes is no valid information. Post your armory and your skada damage breakdown. Also, do Normalized fights (e.g. dealing 10 Million damage or 5 Minute Fights) so that there is a set set of parameters for the fight. In short fights you are unlikely to get to your max dps as Affliction has a rampup time.

Not dropping buffs is not the only reason to loose damage, clipping buffs is so too (reneweing too early), which costs you multiple GCDS over a fight, greatly affecting your dps.

There are 3 Sources of Errors: Gear, Rotation, Talents (inkluding Artifact traits). So either your gear is incorrect, you have the incorrect talents and traits or you are playing wrong. So it is easy to say that there is a lie within your statement.

Edited by Genu

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As Genu has said above, there isn't much we can do without a log or footage of gameplay to analyse. I would suggest checking out Zagam's thread about logs.

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Hi this is helping already. I took part of the new raid yesterday and was #4 on singletarget encounters behind dhs and hunter. I try to show you logs asap.

 

One question I have which irritates me. If I take soul effigy what t1 t2 talents do I pick, because if I stay with my t1 t2 talents or choose the other viable option I only achieve a minimal change in DPS which feels like not worth it for me.

Or am I dotting wrong? I mean I should put all my three dots on soul effigy right?

 

Sincere regards.

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22 hours ago, Amateurpeeweeeeh said:

One question I have which irritates me. If I take soul effigy what t1 t2 talents do I pick, because if I stay with my t1 t2 talents or choose the other viable option I only achieve a minimal change in DPS which feels like not worth it for me.

If you want help choosing talents for each boss, I'd recommend looking at this:

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/rankings/10#class=Warlock&spec=Affliction

This shows the top affliction players on each fight, as well as the most popular talents chosen for each.

 

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