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Am i Simcrafting wrong

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Hi Guys im new to the Forum and hope maybe to get some help

 

SOO the thing is im running my Assa Rogue through Simcraft and im not so sure if the Resultes were right so i came here for help

according to Simcraft my Rogue should be doing 149k dps but ingame on the Raiddummy im somwhere between 180k and 200k 

so i was wondering am i missing something in the options of Simcraft or am i just that good a player (JK) and the other thing is the

Statprio on simcraft is kinda strange and it just looks wrong according to Simcraft i should be doing this Agi > Crit > Vers > Haste ~= Mastery

but in other forums or guides i keep reading about Agi > Mastery > Crit > Vers > Haste so im not sure whats right and whats wrong can somebody

please push me in the right direction :D

 

OH and here is my Armory if you guys need it in someway 

http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/azshara/Eloen/simple

 

Thanks for the help in advance

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Someone much more knowledgeable will probs be able to explain further about using simcraft properly.

For the stat priority, the high ranking versa one will be if you are running exsang. The mastery one is for the agonizing poison build.

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Thanks allot for the quick answer and since i don't really like the exsang build im going crit mastery all the way :D btw is there a point where i should stop getting crit or mastery ?

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1 hour ago, Xanxos said:

Thanks allot for the quick answer and since i don't really like the exsang build im going crit mastery all the way :D btw is there a point where i should stop getting crit or mastery ?

Simming will give you the answer. :P

Once you reach certain levels of a stat, the other becomes valuable. But every toon has it's own weights, so you gotta sim from time to time to optimize your stuff.

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Just a minor point, i think Carrn said in another post, you will need at least 110% mastery for poison build to be viable....or something along those lines.

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1 hour ago, Spicyboy said:

Just a minor point, i think Carrn said in another post, you will need at least 110% mastery for poison build to be viable....or something along those lines.

It's not required, but most people see better results with Agonizing Poison after that point

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aaah okay well atm im dancing around 120% mastery so i should be fine. 

Btw i just remembered a question i had because im not a 100% sure about this

but wouldn't it be more useful as a poison rogue to take the Talent "Master Poisoner"

instead of Planning or are the 15% from Panning just overall better because it also works

with the bleeds

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32 minutes ago, Xanxos said:

aaah okay well atm im dancing around 120% mastery so i should be fine. 

Btw i just remembered a question i had because im not a 100% sure about this

but wouldn't it be more useful as a poison rogue to take the Talent "Master Poisoner"

instead of Planning or are the 15% from Panning just overall better because it also works

with the bleeds

Planning is better because you time your damage to happen inside those windows

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