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Hey guys, I've been playing Fire mage for the first time since Legion. I did my research on almost everything you need to know on Fire Mages. I've spent hours on the rotation and I believe that I've almost mastered it.

 

Now, the reason I am posting on the forum is because I need advise...

I can't seem to exceed as much as I am suppose to as a fire mage. If I compare myself to what I see on Warcraft logs, fire mages of my ITL, are almost always first or second DPS. And even my fire mage guildie that is slightly under gear does much more damage then me on every fight...

I believe that my gear is decent and so is my artifact tree... I do have decent trinkets ... So my conclusion is that I am missing something in my rotation, or that I am prioritizing something that I am not suppose to...

 

Could anyone help me out? I have my latest Warcraft logs, here is one of them  https://www.warcraftlogs.com/rankings/character/12079061/latest#boss=1841

If you need any more , I could link the entire raid last week.

Thank you!!

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One simple question, why are you switching to unstable magic, but you keep conflagration? Conflagration is pretty much useless single-target. You did 1 million damage with it, imagine how much damage the extra pyro's would do during that fight. Plaguehive is also useless. You want 2 crit trinkets, or the tongue trinket from lair as 2nd. 

 

It's kinda hard to analyze what you're doing wrong, best I would suggest is search up rikhlulz on youtube and watch his opener. Another thing you might be doing wrong is not saving your CD's for combustion. You should ALWAYS have rune of power and flame on for combustion. I am currently running cinderstorm myself because kindling fucks up my timings. Hope this helped you abit

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Thanks for the input!

I've kept Conflagration because I believed it was stronger in the long fights, due to the dot ticking... I'll give Pyromanic a try this week and see if it makes a huge difference.

Plaguehive is being used because it's the only luck I've had so far with trinkets. Still waiting for my BiS trinkets to drop... :(

 

I will look up Rikhlulz, that's a good idea, maybe my opener isn't the best that's why I am lacking in the meters. I always try to pair RoP and combustion... I know its crucial to have those 2 together with Flame On and at least 2 PF. I've also speced in Cinderstorm and will try out living bomb this week during raid..

It's hard to always have the best talents for every fight since EN some bosses are mostly single target and others have adds/cleave mobs... But ill keep practicing until I give up on fire and go frost with 7.1 :P.

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I suggest you try to get Wriggling Sinew asap. I can also list up what talents you should use for each boss if that would help you.

Mythic only:

Nythendra - Pyromaniac, Shimmer, Rune of Power, flame on, ice floes, unstable magic, cinderstorm

Il'gynoth - Conflagration, shimmer, rop, fo, if, living bomb, kindling

elerethe - same as above

ursoc - same as above, change to pyromaniac & living bomb out with unstable magic

dragons, same as above, change back to conflagration & living bomb

cenarius same as above with unstable magic

xavius same as above

kinda rushed through this might be confusing idk

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You really shouldn't be using Conflag.  Switch over to Pyromaniac.

 

Your opener should always be a pre-pot with a Pyro cast.  4.5 seconds before the pull.  Typically causing your second cast (fireball) to enter you into a hotstreak.  With this Hotstreak, ROP+Combustion then right into a ton of Pyros.  Using Flame On to get the most you possibly can out.  Use Fireblast x4 (with flame on) before using PF as PF has a slight delay.

Then after your "burn" opener, go into your regular pyro fishing rotation.  You can use ROP 3 times before combustion is re-charged.  It will recharge (if done correctly) when the 4th ROP is charged.  Ensure all of your CDs are ready for ROP+Combustion and go back into it again.

Get rid of that green INT trinket.  You already have a Devilsaur Shock Baton, get a Wiggling Sinew even if it's LFR.

 

Link your Armory.  Also list actual fights, not rankings.

 

If you have crit, and you follow the correct priority rotation, you should be doing near 300k or higher sustain in Heroic.

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"Your opener should always be a pre-pot with a Pyro cast.  4.5 seconds before the pull.  Typically causing your second cast (fireball) to enter you into a hotstreak.  With this Hotstreak, ROP+Combustion then right into a ton of Pyros.  Using Flame On to get the most you possibly can out.  Use Fireblast x4 (with flame on) before using PF as PF has a slight delay."

 

This is simply not true. It's alot of different ways to open, I find that (2sec on pull timer)Pot>RoP>Time warp>Phoenix's flames> Fireblast>Combustion>Pyro>Fireblast>Pyro>flame on>fire blast>pyro>fireblast>pyro>phoenix's flame>pyro>phoenix's flame>pyro>RoP>Hardcast wrist procc if u've gotten, if not fireball (u should have another fire blast here.) etc

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