Jump to content
FORUMS
Sign in to follow this  
Ronspear

Fire Mage help with logs

Recommended Posts

Hey guys, I've been playing Fire mage for the first time since Legion. I did my research on almost everything you need to know on Fire Mages. I've spent hours on the rotation and I believe that I've almost mastered it.

 

Now, the reason I am posting on the forum is because I need advise...

I can't seem to exceed as much as I am suppose to as a fire mage. If I compare myself to what I see on Warcraft logs, fire mages of my ITL, are almost always first or second DPS. And even my fire mage guildie that is slightly under gear does much more damage then me on every fight...

I believe that my gear is decent and so is my artifact tree... I do have decent trinkets ... So my conclusion is that I am missing something in my rotation, or that I am prioritizing something that I am not suppose to...

 

Could anyone help me out? I have my latest Warcraft logs, here is one of them  https://www.warcraftlogs.com/rankings/character/12079061/latest#boss=1841

If you need any more , I could link the entire raid last week.

Thank you!!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

One simple question, why are you switching to unstable magic, but you keep conflagration? Conflagration is pretty much useless single-target. You did 1 million damage with it, imagine how much damage the extra pyro's would do during that fight. Plaguehive is also useless. You want 2 crit trinkets, or the tongue trinket from lair as 2nd. 

 

It's kinda hard to analyze what you're doing wrong, best I would suggest is search up rikhlulz on youtube and watch his opener. Another thing you might be doing wrong is not saving your CD's for combustion. You should ALWAYS have rune of power and flame on for combustion. I am currently running cinderstorm myself because kindling fucks up my timings. Hope this helped you abit

Edited by badfellaa

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Thanks for the input!

I've kept Conflagration because I believed it was stronger in the long fights, due to the dot ticking... I'll give Pyromanic a try this week and see if it makes a huge difference.

Plaguehive is being used because it's the only luck I've had so far with trinkets. Still waiting for my BiS trinkets to drop... :(

 

I will look up Rikhlulz, that's a good idea, maybe my opener isn't the best that's why I am lacking in the meters. I always try to pair RoP and combustion... I know its crucial to have those 2 together with Flame On and at least 2 PF. I've also speced in Cinderstorm and will try out living bomb this week during raid..

It's hard to always have the best talents for every fight since EN some bosses are mostly single target and others have adds/cleave mobs... But ill keep practicing until I give up on fire and go frost with 7.1 :P.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I suggest you try to get Wriggling Sinew asap. I can also list up what talents you should use for each boss if that would help you.

Mythic only:

Nythendra - Pyromaniac, Shimmer, Rune of Power, flame on, ice floes, unstable magic, cinderstorm

Il'gynoth - Conflagration, shimmer, rop, fo, if, living bomb, kindling

elerethe - same as above

ursoc - same as above, change to pyromaniac & living bomb out with unstable magic

dragons, same as above, change back to conflagration & living bomb

cenarius same as above with unstable magic

xavius same as above

kinda rushed through this might be confusing idk

Edited by badfellaa

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

You really shouldn't be using Conflag.  Switch over to Pyromaniac.

 

Your opener should always be a pre-pot with a Pyro cast.  4.5 seconds before the pull.  Typically causing your second cast (fireball) to enter you into a hotstreak.  With this Hotstreak, ROP+Combustion then right into a ton of Pyros.  Using Flame On to get the most you possibly can out.  Use Fireblast x4 (with flame on) before using PF as PF has a slight delay.

Then after your "burn" opener, go into your regular pyro fishing rotation.  You can use ROP 3 times before combustion is re-charged.  It will recharge (if done correctly) when the 4th ROP is charged.  Ensure all of your CDs are ready for ROP+Combustion and go back into it again.

Get rid of that green INT trinket.  You already have a Devilsaur Shock Baton, get a Wiggling Sinew even if it's LFR.

 

Link your Armory.  Also list actual fights, not rankings.

 

If you have crit, and you follow the correct priority rotation, you should be doing near 300k or higher sustain in Heroic.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

"Your opener should always be a pre-pot with a Pyro cast.  4.5 seconds before the pull.  Typically causing your second cast (fireball) to enter you into a hotstreak.  With this Hotstreak, ROP+Combustion then right into a ton of Pyros.  Using Flame On to get the most you possibly can out.  Use Fireblast x4 (with flame on) before using PF as PF has a slight delay."

 

This is simply not true. It's alot of different ways to open, I find that (2sec on pull timer)Pot>RoP>Time warp>Phoenix's flames> Fireblast>Combustion>Pyro>Fireblast>Pyro>flame on>fire blast>pyro>fireblast>pyro>phoenix's flame>pyro>phoenix's flame>pyro>RoP>Hardcast wrist procc if u've gotten, if not fireball (u should have another fire blast here.) etc

Edited by badfellaa

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Loading...
Sign in to follow this  

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.

  • Similar Content

    • By Skaboy
      <Fun is for Casuals> is a serious but casual horde guild on US-Hyjal. We are serious about raiding without the intense hours. Even when recruitment status is none, we will accept exceptional applications for all classes.
      Our raid times are Tuesday and Thursday from 5:30PM to 8:30PM server (PST) with raid invitations sent out a few minutes prior to that.
      We're interested in you if you fit the following criteria:
      Raid attendance is essential. We don't want people sitting on the bench but we also want to make sure we're raiding 6 hours per week. We expect you to be available for at least 90% of our raids. Be on time and prepared for raids. This includes flasks and other consumables. Discord is mandatory and a working mic is desired. You're appropriately geared for our current content. Effort and thought have been put into your gear/gem/enchant choices. You wouldn't show up for a job interview looking like a *filtered*, why would you apply to a guild with improper gems or some insane spec? You're up to date with your class. We expect our raiders to perform to the best of their abilities. You have a computer that's not run with hamster power or requires a hand crank. Some encounters are taxing on a computer's resources so if your toon can't even handle Orgrimmar it's not likely to do well with 20+ whelps that need AOE'ing. You may be interested in us because:
       <Fun is for Casuals> uses the personal loot system. There is no loot council, or DKP. We won't eat your babies the first time you stand in something you have no business being in. Repeatedly do it and we'll break out the bibs and BBQ sauce. We provide a limited amount of consumables and flasks on hard mode raid nights.  Discord isn't a circus during raids. We're focused on the job at hand and you should be too. We don't want someone to miss a an interrupt because they were distracted by fart jokes. We are not interested in you if you fit the following criteria:
      You roll on BoE items then sell them. Unwilling/unable to spend an entire evening on one boss during progression. While this is rare, it can happen. Drama queens. If you have a problem bring it up to E. This is his job. Don't announce it in guild chat or during a raid. Your issue will have nothing to do with 99% of the guild. You are 17 or younger. We try to keep guild and discord chat PG-13 but occasionally a few four letter words appear out of nowhere. Additionally, we don't want someone's mom interrupting their raiding to get homework or the dishes done. Follow the instructions at https://gow.gg/fun-is-for-casuals under the Recruitment tab if you would like to apply.
    • By Daevilmonkie
      Welcome Adventurers! The time has come upon us, FINALLY! The moment in Classic WoW history us diehard, loyal WoW nerds have all been waiting for. WRATH CLASSIC! Arthas Did Nothing Wrong (ADNW) has just begun recruiting (For WotLK Classic) hard-core, casual, rp, pvp, pve, raiders, anything you can think of, you are welcomed here. Although our main focus in ADNW will be progressive raiding, 10 and 25 man and pvp content, we look to have someone for just about anything. Currently we are recruiting for our CORE 10M team composed entirely of irl / internet homies. We are in need of just 1 HEALER (Highly prefer a disc priest with a shadow off spec) and another DPS. Preferably lock or Shadow priest. We are looking to fill our B 10m team entirely, so we can pool together for 25 man’s when it comes time to crush 25m. This guild was founded by a group of tight nit friends recently, who have been around since TBC. WOTLK was our turning point in WoW, and we CANNOT wait to get another crack at this and MAKE IT RIGHT. Come join the adventure of a chill environment full of helpful hands and knowledge. Feel free to reach out to me Via Discord: Daevilmonkiexp#9239 OR Bnet: Daevilmonkie#1280 just let me know you are interested in the guild and we can have a convo! ARTHAS DID NOTHING WRONG!
    • By Jonesy0000
      Hi Team
      I am recently returning from a few years away from the game and I have decided to go back to my much loved main throughout wrath, the feral druid. I have always been a cut above the rest and managed to be top dps all through wrath. 
      I was reading your guide and noticed in the talents you don't take savage roar. Can you explain the match behind this as to me it seems like the more viable option. 
    • By Aereth
      <Tempest> of Khaz'goroth/Dath'remar is recruiting!
      We are a laid back 21+ guild based in Australia for the most part. We understand that some don't have a large amount of time to commit to raiding due to real life commitments- jobs, kids, hassles etc 😛
      Because of this we are dedicated to providing a stress free raiding environment 2 days per week in addition to an active social community. 
      Social apps are available for all classes and levels! If this sounds like the guild for you please contact us!
      Previous tier progression was 1/7M and 3/3H
      Raiding info:
      We raid from 8pm sharp server time Sundays and Wednesdays for 3 hours and predominantly use loot council for loot distribution.
      Recruitment openings: 
      1x Tank- any class - must also be comfortable dpsing
      DPS with healing offspecs
      -WW Monk
      -Shadow Priest
      -Ret Paladin
      -Enh or Ele Shaman
      -Feral or boomkin druid
      We would also consider the following DPS classes without a healing OS
      DH
      warlock
      rogue
      DK
      druid
      We will of course give consideration to those who fall outside our recruitment needs if you think you may be a good fit for Tempest.
      If this sounds like you, or you would like some more info please pst or mail Aereth (Aereth#1439).
    • By Thawn
      Intergalactic is an AOTC/Mythic progression guild now recruiting for Shadowlands raiding and M+.  We are a group of friends who were interested in the fun of raiding while understanding that life responsibilities take precedent. We are a combination of new and returning players from various expansions. While social players are always welcomed, we are more specifically looking for players who are interested in a fun, relaxed environment to progress through content. We do run M+ keys, transmog/gear and achievement runs when possible.
      Intergalactic did not run as a guild during Bfa. We had members getting bored with Bfa content and decided to spend their time on other things. We did do some content with some of the guilds in our community group. Our last guild raids were in Legion. The majority of our core has come back in anticipation for Shadowlands. We are excited to be back as an active guild on Korgath and it's connected realms. We look forward to having you join us!  (Korgath is connected with  Cairne, Cenarius, Frostmane, Ner’zhul, Perenolde, and Tortheldrin.
      What we expect from all of our Members:
      In short, “Be excellent to each other.” We’re not looking for members filled with drama and toxicity. We’re all friends here and while we may not all agree on a particular subject, it can be discussed in a friendly, constructive, and respectful manner. A good sense of humor is a must. We aren’t looking for Members who only log in on raid days. Other events will be on the calendar, as well, and we hope that you’ll sign up and attend.
      What we expect from our Raiders:
      Raiders are to sign up on the calendar for events. If you are going to be late or if you will be unable to attend at the last-minute, please notify the GM, Raid Lead or an Officer as soon as possible.
      Raiders are expected to log in approximately 15 minutes prior to raid start and be outside the raid with consumables and enhancements. We will provide feasts, cauldrons, and repairs. We can provide extra food, enchants, gems when available, all we ask for is either a monetary donation or help with crafting materials.
      Raiders are expected to be prepared with knowledge of raid mechanics, as well as class-specific knowledge. Know your strengths and weaknesses and be willing to openly receive and give helpful constructive criticism when needed.
      Raiders are expected to be progression-oriented, with the understanding that some mechanics/fights may take multiple attempts. We can’t progress through raids without everyone working as a team to try and work through the mechanics.
      Raiders who are capable of playing multiple classes/specs may be asked to switch to a more appropriate character to work through particular mechanics. We maintain a smaller roster and sometimes rotate people in based on fight specifications.
      Raid Days/Times: Wednesday/Friday at 8pm Server/9pm EST, possible carryover on Saturdays
      Roles Needed: Ranged DPS and/or multi-spec players
      We require:
      Discord
      Deadly Boss Mods
      Details! Damage Meter (preferred)
      If you think that we would be a good fit, please send a DM to Northeos, Nanami or Thawn. Or simply add us on Battle Tag.
      Thawn Btag MistFist#1340
      Northeos Btag Northe#1566
      Nanami Btag Tyannah#1566
×
×
  • Create New...