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Enhancement - Improving DPS

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Hi there!
I'm currently not very satisfied with my DPS which you can see in these logs for HC: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/8gwBmrzRDt7HF3X4/#boss=-2&type=damage-done
and here is my Character: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/stormscale/Urshák/advanced

My Rotation is:
Feral Lunge - to close gaps
Maintain Boulderfist and Flametongue Buffs
Cast Boulderfist to generate Maelstrom
Spamming the shit out of Stormstrike every time I can :D
When Boulderfist and Stormstrike are on CD i'll use Lava Lash (and Crash Lightning when there are more targets)
Cast Doom Winds, Feral Spirits and Blood Fury everytime I can
(- Hope I didn't forget anything)


Could you help me with my Rotation and/or can you give me some advice on how to improve my DPS.
Would be very awesome, because I don't have the knowledge to figure out what I'm doing wrong or how to improve.

Thanks in advance :)

Cheers!

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Your main mistake is talent choice my friend. You should use Hailstorm instead of haste buff (can't remember the name sorry.) Hailstorm is our main dps recourse with Stormstrike. Your rotation seens okay. You should maintain your Frostbrand and Flame on boss every second. You should change your trinkets as much as possible use your rerolls on ursoc and ilgynoth for trinkets (and pray to god =) ) You will be quickly see the difference when you start to use Hailstorm. Try to stack Mastery as much as you can. Good luck on your progress.

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You are close but missing some key elements to your rotation. There is a third buff you must keep up and that is your frost brand. Also use crash lightning no matter the circumstances as with the talent you have it will leave a electrified spot on the ground that damages the enemy standing in it. Overall nice job if you need anymore help please contact me.

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20 hours ago, shovery said:

Your main mistake is talent choice my friend. You should use Hailstorm instead of haste buff (can't remember the name sorry.) Hailstorm is our main dps recourse with Stormstrike. Your rotation seens okay. You should maintain your Frostbrand and Flame on boss every second. You should change your trinkets as much as possible use your rerolls on ursoc and ilgynoth for trinkets (and pray to god =) ) You will be quickly see the difference when you start to use Hailstorm. Try to stack Mastery as much as you can. Good luck on your progress.

Thank you for your advice :) Yeah got pretty bad luck with my trinkets :D 
My friend told me that I wont lose any damage with the Haste buff...i guess he's wrong :) Will change that!

 

15 hours ago, Hurriquake said:

You are close but missing some key elements to your rotation. There is a third buff you must keep up and that is your frost brand. Also use crash lightning no matter the circumstances as with the talent you have it will leave a electrified spot on the ground that damages the enemy standing in it. Overall nice job if you need anymore help please contact me.

Okay, I thought Crash Lightning wasn't so important for a boss fight...I will change that and the Frostbrand/Hailstorm buff in the next encounter :)
Thank you too for your advice :)

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Indeed, Hailstorm accounts for a lot of your total damage done. Usually (for me) the Hailstorm damage is about 15-17% of my total damage done. If you keep the buff up for the majority of the fight you will immediately see a great increase in damage. Of course, aim for 100% uptime, but 95%+ is good. You have plenty of haste to spare even without the Ancestral Swiftness talent. 

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Hey,

Indeed, I highly recommend you to take the Hailstorm talent, in single target fight you'll do almost as much dmg with it than your Stormstrike this is huge ! Also I'm not a big fan of Feral Lunge in a raid situation, since it burns one gcd (global cooldown) when you can just start your fight with Flametongue for example, since it has a big range. Try the totem it is great in most raid fight :)

Also I think you should focus more on Mastery instead of Haste, it is just broken with the right enchants/trinkets (for instance, the Satyr Neck Enchant does Fire damage it's insanely strong).

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Ancestral Swiftness is the talent to take when you are laughably overgeared and it doesn't matter.  Take it to Timewalking dungeons or normal Mythics to get your world quest done. It accelerates the damage you do, especially with large trash packs. On more difficult content, Frostbrand is going to perform better.

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On 10.11.2016 at 2:19 PM, Orodrake said:

Also I'm not a big fan of Feral Lunge in a raid situation, since it burns one gcd (global cooldown) when you can just start your fight with Flametongue for example, since it has a big range. Try the totem it is great in most raid fight :)

Also I think you should focus more on Mastery instead of Haste, it is just broken with the right enchants/trinkets (for instance, the Satyr Neck Enchant does Fire damage it's insanely strong).

Yeah, I took Feral Lunge out of laziness :D
 I had the Wind Rush Totem at first but most of the time I forgot about it or the raid didn't made use of the bonus.
Okay, I'm focusing on Mastery right now but never got lucky to get the perfect stats on my items.
And thanks for the enchant tip :)

 

Thank you all for your advice :) I have changed my talents so far and trying to implement these tips in my rotation :)

If you got any other advices of what kind ever - I'm willing to take it :P

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I actually enjoy Feral Lunge, but which talent you choose should depend on the fight. On Nythendra, Ilgynoth, Cenarius, Xavius, and Ursoc I usually use Feral Lunge. It helps me to either get back on the boss fast at certain times, or reach adds quickly.

The speed totem is an excellent talent overall though. Invaluable on fights like Elrethe to help your raid get out of the way when she drops down again. So make a judgement call!

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19 hours ago, Ninjan said:

I actually enjoy Feral Lunge, but which talent you choose should depend on the fight. On Nythendra, Ilgynoth, Cenarius, Xavius, and Ursoc I usually use Feral Lunge. It helps me to either get back on the boss fast at certain times, or reach adds quickly.

The speed totem is an excellent talent overall though. Invaluable on fights like Elrethe to help your raid get out of the way when she drops down again. So make a judgement call!

The speed totem is also amazing in Withered Training. You leave them behind if you use Ghost Wolf form, but with the Wind Rush buff they all keep up with you. :>

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Also remember to eat your pepper breath food. I see a lot of shamans not doing this and missing out on a huge dps increase.

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 Hailstorm is definitely one of the best abilities you can take.  until I began my tweaking process, my hailstorm wias my third highest generated DPS outputs.

 

 I then tried a haste build and was able to successfully get it to 33%, with a 54% mastery.   DPS output failed miserably. Lost about 30 K damage.

 

 I then began to maintain as recommended per this site 65% haste rating of total mastery level.  DPS output was slightly above average shaman in my ILVL

 

 last night, I sacrificed all my haste to mastery. I rolled in with a 76% mastery, 15% haste.  changed gems, changed enchants and a few pieces of gear

 

 DPS output is as follows

normal mode

 

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/VLhxzgQJbXrCDwyB/#type=damage-done&fight=33&start=7640537&end=7743723

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Pretty funny parse there, with the Holy Priest DPS and class stacking. Of course you're going to see nice numbers if the fight only lasts a minute and a half and half the raid is crazy burst types. :D

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Nevertheless it was long enough to rotate big CD's twice. Sustainable damage.

 

But yeah we could solo heal H EN, ez pz stuffs

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On 20/11/2016 at 4:39 AM, Kargar said:

Also remember to eat your pepper breath food. I see a lot of shamans not doing this and missing out on a huge dps increase.

The damage proc from Drogbar-style Salmon (pepper breath) doesn't scale with Enhancement's mastery, so you're taking a big hit in dps if you're using this over Mastery food.

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      We are a group of friends and serious raiders on EU Twisting Nether looking to recruit skilled like-minded players into our roster for Mythic Legion raids. We will offer a sociable and fun raiding environment while maintaining a strong desire for progression. Our Discord is very active and we encourage all members to chat and play together not only for raids.

      We currently raid Wednesday, Sunday and Tuesday 19:00-22:00 server time. We run social/alt raids during off days in which all ranks of the guild are welcome to come to. Our members also play other games outside raid times together where anyone is also welcome to join(LoL, Dota, HotS, Overwatch etc.).
      Our loot system for Mythic is RC Loot Council.
      What we expect from you:
      - We are a raiding guild with a 3 days a week schedule that you are expected to attend. However we understand things can come up but please let us know.
      - Be able to speak and understand the English language and not be afraid to communicate with other members during raids.
      - Actively doing dungeons and world quests to gear in preparation for raids. This includes improving your artifact weapon.
      - Have a strong understanding of the current raid tier and be able to play your class to it's potential.
      - Always come to raids prepared (i.e. bringing food and potions, etc).
      - Come fully gemmed and enchanted with the correct stats for your class and spec.
      - Access to Discord and a working microphone.
      - Have a computer that can handle 20 man raiding.
      - Exorsus Raid Tools and RC Loot Council addons installed. We may ask you to install others.
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      To join into our current main raids
      - 865 ilvl
      - 25 traits at the very least.
      - Experience on 4 or more bosses in EN Mythic.
      You will receive a response within 3 days but probably within 1. The trial process will last 2 weeks, sometimes longer. During the trial period you will not have loot priority over raiders however you may of course still roll.
      If you have any further questions please contact us at battletags: Vims#21684 or go to our website http://asylum-tn.enjin.com/ .
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      We're currently looking for the classes below but may consider other classes as well.
      Druid: Restoration And Balance.
      Monk: Mistweaver.
      Shaman: Restoration.
      Hunter: One.
      Other dps will also be considered.
    • By Darkvo1ce
      Hi, I used AksMrRobot to sim my char and as I thought I'm underperforming for my ilvl according to mrRobot I should do around 300k dps with my ilvl 869 gear but I'm sitting on 200k-240k-ish I do know that I don't have any enchants on my gear which is a dps loss but I think the enchats will give me maybe only 10k which means there still 50k left which I'm missing.
      I mainly do Mythic+ dungeons but from time to time I do the raids or at least the Emerals Nightmare
      My latest log is available through this link warcraftlogs
      here is my armory link 
      I think the main issue is my bad momentum usage but maybe I'm wrong. 
      I'm looking forward to your feedback