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Has anyone tried dispelling while having an immunity effect? I wonder if u still get pride... Meaning: a monk can use Diffuse Magic to remove the hot from himself without gaining pride (which I assume also implies that things like the pally bubble will do the same). The question is, can a pally bubble and dispel someone else without gaining pride or can a monk diffuse magic and dispel. Just curious and not sure I'll have time to try it tonight.

 

All single-target dispels work, including Glyphed Shamanistic Rage (that was reported in the Shaman section). They won't stack up Pride if you have the buff.

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*squeel*

 

This is an amazing fun heroic fight and all of our raiders agreed. ten minutes of running around like a chicken with your head cut off with the occasional pac-man thrown in, Just an awesome fight that's doesn't really require that high of numbers. Mostly mechanics based. So here's my input on this fight for 10m Heroic.

 

Suggested comp:

2 tanks

3 healers

5 dps

 

I suggest 3 healers mainly because the dps requirement isn't all that high and because of the high burst damage from swelling pride + mark of arrogance it can help reduce deaths to that. If your only option  is to two heal it it will be perfectly viable.

 

Mechanic changes in heroic.

none of the existing mechanics are altered except for damage. There are however two new abilities you must contend with.

 

Banishment-

The Sha of Pride banishes a random player to the corrupted Sha Realm. Banished players leave behind a physical form of their pride and remain banished until it is destroyed. Players within the Sha realm move 50% faster and are compelled to continually run forward, unable to stop. Additionally, coming into contact with corruption within the Sha realm inflicts 350,000 Shadow damage every second. Any player damaged by the Sha realm gains 5 Pride.

 

Basically this is pacman, you are teleported into a maze realm. The walls, which just shadow in the ground, Hurt you so stay in the maze. Somewhat similar to pac-man there are sha beasts that roam around each sha beast seems to have a set pattern. There is no safe spot form them so run away from them trying to avoid them at all costs because if they reach you you're dead. Finally there are white orbs you can run into in the realm, they cause the add that you spawn in the normal realm to take 25% more damage and heals you. 

 

a add called "corrupted fragment" (roughly 4.5m health in 10-heroic) is spawned where you were banshied, killing it releses you from the realm so it is the highest priority on kill targets.

 

 

Unstable corruption-

The Sha's energy tears open Rifts of Corruption every 3 sec. Each rift launches a bolt of corruption at a random player's location every 5 sec. Player's struck by the bolts suffer 350000 Shadow damage and gain 5 Pride. Players can close the rifts, causing them to explode, inflicting 250,000 Shadow damage to all players within 8 yards. Closing a rift afflicts players with Weakened Resolve, preventing them from closing another rift for 1 min.

 

This is very similar to anima font on Dark animus only blue. These rifts on the ground spawn consistently throughout the fight. I'm no sure  about he spawn rate but for us they spawned faster than we tried to close them causing the fight to get very hectic towards the end. 

 

everyone should try to close rifts as they de buffs allow except in these situations.

-swelling pride is about to come out due to the damage from closing a rift.

-banishment is about to come out due to your corrupted fragment being spawned far away

 

Strategy changes from normal

 

1. We no longer stack up on green the entire fight. People with gift of the titans all move to the old stack point just to get power of the titans then spread back out. 

2. reflections arn't aoed down rather have the tanks pick them up and aoe them down. 

3. dispels should be happening even if you do not have gift of the titans when you're coming up on swelling pride. as long as you're not going over 74 corruption you should feel free to dispel at any time. try to spread the dispels out between healers

 

 

all i got for now.

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Guest handsomeant

can a warlocks imp use the singe magic to remove the debuff also when they have gift?

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Guest Belisaere

can a warlocks imp use the singe magic to remove the debuff also when they have gift?

It works but its considered a AoE dispell and even with the buff will give us pride per each buff removed. Only time ive not gained pride is if ive managed to dispell only 1 person with buff, so it acted as a single dispell. 

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The heroic mode section of this guide has 2 rather large omissions. The first is the fact that banished players are forced to auto-run for the duration of the banishment phase. The second is that there are adds running around in the banishment phase that will kill you if they manage to get within 5-10 yards of you.

 

Those two things are pretty much the only difficult parts of the banishment phase. Please add these to the guide, as, without this information, pretty much anyone who goes into the banishment phase is going to die.

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The heroic mode section of this guide has 2 rather large omissions. The first is the fact that banished players are forced to auto-run for the duration of the banishment phase. The second is that there are adds running around in the banishment phase that will kill you if they manage to get within 5-10 yards of you.

 

Those two things are pretty much the only difficult parts of the banishment phase. Please add these to the guide, as, without this information, pretty much anyone who goes into the banishment phase is going to die.

Thank you for pointing this out. I was well aware of both these pieces of information when I wrote that section, but for some reason I omitted to include them. Entirely my fault, of course, and I'm grateful for your post. It's been fixed now, and should show up properly shortly.

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Guest Nihilism

Are you certain about the off tank going to pick up the Manifestation (big add)? We certainly have the Reflections picked up and downed with tanks AoE, but I think if the off tank is running to get the Manifestation at the back of the room they won't get back in time for the swap or prison.

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not sure if it been asked before,

I'm a shaman healer, if I do NOT have the achievement_dungeon_ulduarraid_titan_01.Gift of the Titans and I attempt to dispell someone who have the achievement_dungeon_ulduarraid_titan_01.Gift of the Titans buff

 

will that generate pride ?

 

I mean is it only the time that I have to dispell is if I have the achievement_dungeon_ulduarraid_titan_01.Gift of the Titans buff , or its OK to dispell someone that is currently under the achievement_dungeon_ulduarraid_titan_01.Gift of the Titans buff ?

 

 

Thanks for your hard and awesome works smile.png

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wait, I thought I need achievement_dungeon_ulduarraid_titan_01.Gift of the Titans to be able to dispell without gaining pride. its news to me that I need spell_holy_powerinfusion.jpgPower of the Titans to be able to dispell, sorry that I'm asking this but, are you sure ?

 

 

thanks for your reply Hybrys

Ahha!  No, you're totally right.  All you need is Gift of the Titans.  To be concise:

 

If you do not have Gift of the Titans, you cannot dispell Mark of Arrogance without gaining pride.

 

Your target having Power/Gift does not factor into the equation.

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