Subtlety Rogue Opening

[Cuy 0]

Hello,

 

a few questions. Usually I begin like this: (Premeditation)Garrote, Slice and Dice, Ambush, Hemorrhage, Rupture with 5CP thx toHonor Among Thieves and so on. In the guide

 

 

1. Cast  Garrote.
2. Cast  Ambush as many times as possible (usually twice).
   • It should be possible thanks to Energetic Recovery and  Subterfuge.
   • Extra Combo Points will be stored, thanks to  Anticipation.

I'll try it next time in raid. But I cannot cast twice Ambush on the doll, with or without Energetic Recovery. How is my opening anyway? Should I cast Slice and Dice later?

 

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do not refresh  Rupture until  Garrote fades

Why is it so? I thought  Rupture >  Eviscerate, independent of  Sanguinary Vein)

 

And the CDs. From another guide (http://eu.battle.net/wow/de/forum/topic/5847957076 it's german) the priority is Vanish > Preparation > Shadow Dance > Shadow Blades. But in the guide here 

 

 

Finally, one last trick can be used when  Vanish and  Shadow Dance come off cooldown at the same time. Use  Shadow Dance first.

Vanish has a longer Cooldown, so I thought it's better to cast Vanish first. Is it better to cast Shadow Dance first? And why? And when to cast Shadow Blades (at the beginning)? With T15 4P Bonus, I cast Shadow Blades with Vanish and Glyph of Vanish or with Shadow Dance. Now I don't have T15 4P Bonus. The guide from the german forum suggests to cast Shadow Blades after Vanish/Perperation+Vanish/Shadow Dance, that's about 45 seconds after beginning. Is it really good to wait so long?

Edited October 6, 2013 by Cuy

[Cuy 0]

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Why is it so? I thought  Rupture >  Eviscerate, independent of  Sanguinary Vein

I figured it out.

 

 

You should always time your  Shadow Dance and  Vanish cooldowns in such a way that you do not have to refresh  Slice and Dice or  Rupture (which does not benefit from  Find Weakness) while these cooldowns are active.

Now I have another questen respectively idea. With Glyph of Hemorrhaging Veins we don't have to refresh Rupture and cast more strong Eviscerate during Find Weakness, which means that the Glyph of Hemorrhaging Veins is also a dps-gain on single target situations. Is it right?

 

 

Vanish has a longer Cooldown, so I thought it's better to cast Vanish first.

 

Hmm it may be an error in reasoning on my part...

Edited October 7, 2013 by Cuy