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So I am a 556 frost mage right now. I did go and try out arcane but with my groups comp I went back frost to help with some mechanics. I was wondering if someone could tell me how frost and fire compare? I have always been a fan of fire but I'd rather not sac dps just to go fire. tongue.png Also if arcane just completely blows out the other specs should I go arcane to add more dps to the group? Please and thank you. is my toons armory.

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All three specs will provide you with almost the same dps. Arcane and fire will be a bit higher than frost however, frost is very versatile and can bring utilities to the group. Kiting, slowing, etc ie. on Siegecrafter Crawler Mines, Shamans Foul slimes. Frozen orb is also a huge burst aoe damage for also the same purpose.


If you have any problems on a boss that is not related to your spec most likely. 5k+/- will not make a difference.


Frost and fire comparison. Well, fire has a bit better movement thanks to Scorch. However it is a bit RNG spec with hige damage spikes, and then poorer DPS when Combustion etc cooldowns are on cooldown.

Frost is rather a stable spec. You will see almost the same dps when CDs are up or not. A stable, but high DPS.


That's all that came to my mind atm, but if you have more exact questions, please specify.

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Well because I've always been number 1 or 2 for dps with my raid when I see myself at 4 or 5 on some bosses it makes me wonder if I'm doing stuff wrong. I've gone and read the forum about frost mage here many times and I've figured out my own little personal cd usage with boss mechanics. But still hurt when I sit there doing what I can and then see the rest of my dps raiders blow me away =/. And yes the siegecrafter belt is the main reason I went frost, others couldn't get it down in time. 


Oh, the 2pc with tier 16, how would I go about doing that, i noticed my ice lance gets the biggest boost from that buff but what do you suggest?

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Well.. About what is wrong with your DPS or rotation can only be told through WoL. If you could link a Malkorok fight of yours it would be very good. :)


2pc is sweet. You should always try to use it with Ice Lance indeed. There various situations.


However, the most important is to use it with either Frostfire bolt (with Brain Freeze) or with Ice Lance (wit FoF) since those are almost guarranteed crit hits. But don't delay anyting just for those procs. You will still never want to waste any BFs.

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I've compared my logs to yours.


The major differences I saw. You had <90% Invoker's energy uptime. That could be a bit higher.

You had much less casts of Frostbolt. I am assuming that you are moving inefficiently, or when you move you don't cast anything.

The fact that I didn't see any Blazing Speed/Ice Flows buffs casted on you assures me about this. You should minimize your movement and try to cast as much FBs as possible. Movement increasing thingy like Blink with Rapid Displacement, Blazing Speed of Ice Flows are essential to that fight due to the imploding zones Blood rage. I think you should try to focus on that and you should be fine :)


If you would like to have a look at my log too here's the link for comparison.

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