Too late in SoO to attempt swap to subtlety from assassination?

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as far as assassination goes, I'm doing a healthy amount of dps around the 290-300k mark, however, my raidleader was asking me to try out subtlety to see if it'll turn out to be more dps than I'm currently pulling. My question is whether or not I'd have to scrap almost my entire gear set and somehow try to pull in much more crit, or if a simple reforging out of mastery would do(after gemming and enchanting of course). (nevermind the talents, I use a very weird build for farming old content)

Edited by Sjachvirlym

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Sub does have a very different stat priority, but some reforging should sort that out


Simply by switching to subtlety, shadowcraft shows more than a 10% DPS increase. Taking the output it gives you, and your own estimation, it puts you at roughly 324-335k.


Of course, the main issues are staying behind the boss the whole time and performing the rotation well enough to maintain the high DPS. Compared to assassination, there's a lot more to do and keep track of. For me, switching to sub is a DPS loss because I suck at it. But another rogue I know has about 553 gear (compared to my 560) and can pull higher numbers than me on the right fights.


Sub is a very strong single-target spec at the moment, but it does require a single-target. Iron Juggernaut, Sha, Malkorok, Siegecrafter (if you ignore the add and aren't on the belt) are likely to be the fights where you benefit from sub rather than assassination. Likewise, for fights with lots of adds that will benefit from more cleave than assassination can offer, combat should, in theory, be better than assassination.


I would suggest spending some time on a dummy in both specs and comparing how you perform. If you can master subtlety, you should notice a significant improvement.


If DPS is an issue, it might be worth the switch. If berserk timers aren't a problem, though, I wouldn't worry about it too much.

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