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which one is better ?
Ruinblaster ShotgunOr
Vishanka, Jaws of the EarthLFR Ver
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#2
Posted 16 July 2012 - 09:17 PM
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Bow is better. Sadly I don't have either of those, my luck with ranged wepon rolls is poorer than poor.
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Posted 17 July 2012 - 06:15 AM
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Thanks will stick with the bow then 
will stick with the bow then
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Posted 17 July 2012 - 08:10 AM
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I agree with Alierya, Vishanka, Jaws of the Earth is better.
Vishanka, Jaws of the Earth is better.
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Posted 17 July 2012 - 10:36 PM
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I have a couple of concerns with this..
RuinBlaster Shotgun is the same speed as the Vishanka, Jaws of the Earth so that makes them the same, but the gun has higher top end damage at 3464 vs 3246, 10 more agility, 107 crit, which after Agility and dps of our weapon is the next best stat for Hunters. If you are a troll, the bow will give you 1% crit, that the gun doesn't but, the gun does 888.2 dps vs 832.1 for the bow.
So after all that, at least when comparing the LFR the gun is by far superior, and will produce higher average dps.
RuinBlaster Shotgun is the same speed as the Vishanka, Jaws of the Earth so that makes them the same, but the gun has higher top end damage at 3464 vs 3246, 10 more agility, 107 crit, which after Agility and dps of our weapon is the next best stat for Hunters. If you are a troll, the bow will give you 1% crit, that the gun doesn't but, the gun does 888.2 dps vs 832.1 for the bow.
So after all that, at least when comparing the LFR the gun is by far superior, and will produce higher average dps.
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Posted 18 July 2012 - 11:22 AM
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You are completely discounting the extra 7k dmg that procs with the bow.
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Posted 18 July 2012 - 11:35 AM
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Zuul, on 17 July 2012 - 10:36 PM, said:
I have a couple of concerns with this..
RuinBlaster Shotgun is the same speed as the Vishanka, Jaws of the Earth so that makes them the same, but the gun has higher top end damage at 3464 vs 3246, 10 more agility, 107 crit, which after Agility and dps of our weapon is the next best stat for Hunters. If you are a troll, the bow will give you 1% crit, that the gun doesn't but, the gun does 888.2 dps vs 832.1 for the bow.
So after all that, at least when comparing the LFR the gun is by far superior, and will produce higher average dps.
RuinBlaster Shotgun is the same speed as the Vishanka, Jaws of the Earth so that makes them the same, but the gun has higher top end damage at 3464 vs 3246, 10 more agility, 107 crit, which after Agility and dps of our weapon is the next best stat for Hunters. If you are a troll, the bow will give you 1% crit, that the gun doesn't but, the gun does 888.2 dps vs 832.1 for the bow.
So after all that, at least when comparing the LFR the gun is by far superior, and will produce higher average dps.
While you are correct in your comparison, the bow produces better DPS in most (perhaps all?) simulation tools. As this is Hunter-specific, I recommend www.femaledwarf.com. As Alierya points out, the proc is also a factor.
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Posted 18 July 2012 - 02:39 PM
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Alierya, on 18 July 2012 - 11:22 AM, said:
You are completely discounting the extra 7k dmg that procs with the bow.
I am not discounting the proc, just that the biggest dps upgrade a hunter can get is his weapon, slower harder hitting. The gun IMO is better in this scenerio. Simulators are great but they don't account for all the factors of a fight, movement etc., I don't rely on them to that degree.. I was simply stating that based upon my experience, and the dps provided by each weapon, that even with the proc, the gun will win out.
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Posted 18 July 2012 - 03:37 PM
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Zuul, on 18 July 2012 - 02:39 PM, said:
I am not discounting the proc, just that the biggest dps upgrade a hunter can get is his weapon, slower harder hitting. The gun IMO is better in this scenerio. Simulators are great but they don't account for all the factors of a fight, movement etc., I don't rely on them to that degree.. I was simply stating that based upon my experience, and the dps provided by each weapon, that even with the proc, the gun will win out.
You are spot on about simulators not properly mimicking all factors of a fight. For this reason, we generally don't favour them in our guides, and don't put too much stock in their results.
In this case, however, movement and all other factors play no part in the comparison between these weapons. Oh and, from the tests I ran, the DPS difference is about 200 DPS, give or take. That's about 0.5% of top-geared hunters' DPS, so not a very big difference