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Is there I anything I can do to improve at the moment? I know my hit is way too high but I've had bad luck with drops. 


Also, if you can't line them up, is it better to use a potion during Avenging wrath or Guardian of Ancient Kings?



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From what I see, your ES usage is low, and your SW uptime is low as well, you should generally be using AW on CD, and use ES with it (since you don't have ENG you'll use ES a lot less than I would). It also seems you used ES a bit early before your GoAK reached max stacks at the pull. I'm also not seeing any use of Divine Protection at all (and keep in mind I'm just looking at malk right now. 


You could use a bit more work on keeping inquisition up the whole fight, I'd suggest a WA for it to track (I have a few if you need them)


Generally I wait until AW and GoAK line up again, but honestly on normal it doesn't make a big deal since you kill things so quickly just use it when you're comfortable. 



As for your gear you're well well over hit cap and a tad under expertise. I can see you really can't help the hit issue, but changing a yellow gem to wicked could help. You're also a bit over the 17k haste point which a bit could go into mastery.



Looking at your other fights I'd say try to macro DP into something, it's not bad to use it as much as possible especially on normal (basically rolling it on CD)


I THINK that's basically it? This is my first time really attempting to read logs (hybrys tell me how I did!)

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You definitely need to find gear that doesn't have hit on it, since you're miles over the hit cap.


Auriel says you could use some more mastery rather than all the haste you have, which is where I recommend you switch your 175 haste to boots into 140 mastery + runspeed to boots. The movement speed will help a good amount.



Every single one of your fights seem to have very large gaps where you do not use Crusader Strike/Hammer of the Righteous or Judgment at all. You're losing out on a lot of holy power, thus a lot of inquisition uptime and TV hits.



As Auriel mentioned, you rarely used your Tier 6 Talent, which is one of the best CDs you could use, so you have to use that. The priority you should follow is listed in the guide here:


Along with your Holy Power issues with generating holy power, you also had a few moments where you sat on 5 holy power. It seemed to be during defensive stance or blood frenzy though, but the time you spent at 5 on nazgrim shows you could have used some on an add wave at some point.


As for defensives, in your 7 boss kills you casted:

3 Devotion Auras

0 Hand spells of any kind (LoH excluded)


I think the biggest loss in DPS you are having is keeping to your rotation. Try to perfect that, and you'll see some great changes in numbers as you work to apply the others with it.

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I agree with everything above. I would normally make a comment about your choice in profession *cough* herbalism, but with the changes coming WoD it won't matter. 

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I knew I was forgetting something :( thanks for pointing out the HP issues fouton

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Auriel, what log or logs are you looking at when you say my ES usage is low? In the Malkorok kill I linked I used it 3 times in 2:38.


In all those logs I pretty much cast it on cooldown outside of a few instances, like defensive stance, and during spoils when I switched to Light's Hammer.


Fouton, which large gap in particular are talking about in that nazgrim log?

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Am I looking at the right armoury? The one appearing right now makes zero sense, with red strength gems (horribly inefficient at this gear level) in most slots and an abundance of missed socket bonuses where gemming for the bonus would actually give you more of the stat you eschewed the bonus for. Your expertise isn't capped despite having an abundance of red slots with which to do so and you have a reforge of expertise into hit on your chest. Auriel says you have too much haste but on the armoury I'm looking at, you only have 25%. Thing is, you have your 2h weapon equipped so I can only assume this is the set you're using for ret.


Extremely confusing.

Edited by AMonkeyCourier

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There are also some places where your inq is down for about 20s or more like in nazgrim right near the end. also a few other fights. 


(this seems to coincide with your lack of CS damage as well in fact on nazgrim specifically there's a point where you're doing very little damage if any at all,+61%25,+43%25)%24damage%240%240.0.0.Any%24141601106.0.0.Paladin%24true%240.0.0.Any%24false%2485256 )

And that's my bad I wasn't really looking at the times, but I stand by the fact that having that much hit is losing a lot of secondary stats and therefore a LOT of dps, no matter what your ilvl is.




@monkey - it looks to me like either a pg or a CM set. 

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