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Hello i am looking for some help on maximizing my DPS as a outlaw rogue I try to follow the icy veins guide for basically everything rotation stats etc.. i fell like I am under performing in our raid attempts and i was wondering if i could get some input on how I am performing. I know that my ghostly strike up time is low and i need to work on that.
here are logs from last night
and here are some from last week
And here is my advanced Armory
any help would be greatly appreciated
Thanks in advance
So I'm returning to WoW after taking about a year off and am looking for a little assistance with my Outlaw Rogue because I am apparently missing something.
I've followed IV's Outlaw Rogue Guide as closely as I could. Here's a breakdown of what I'm running with:
Armory: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/blackrock/Bàné/simple Warcraft Logs (H Ursoc for example): https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/D8Txfm7FbNwcR1VY/#type=damage-done&source=23 My rotation is (as far as I can tell) right from the Guide M4D to RTB AB & CotDB simultaneously when I can Guildie for comparison (with lower ilvl): https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/D8Txfm7FbNwcR1VY/#type=damage-done&source=32 So I'm not currently running Ghostly Strike, which I am considering changing. But overall I feel like sometimes I'm waiting for the "perfect" moment to cast AB/CotDB, so as not to waste any time on it. Also, my when I RTB, I will always typically get 1 buff and I feel like I am wasting CPs rerolling two, three or four times.
Anyway.. I'm geared well, and I've got my weapons pretty high - I feel like I am underachieving and looking for any assistance this community can lend.
I tried to collect information about roll the bones by reading and watching guides but i feel like there are so many details that are not mentioned. So it leads me to create this thread with all my recent questions that came to my mind while playing this spec. I would really appreciate it if someone who is more experienced than me in theorycrafting could reply.
1. Ill start with general questions when I go through my normal rotation
with NO cooldowns activated.
- 1.1 I heard that I want to reroll until I have 2 buffs active and
that no single buff is worth keeping in my normal rotation. Are there
exceptions? Do I want to reroll some buffs even if 2 are active? (Saw in
a thread that you want to reroll Grand Meele)
- 1.2 I know there is no real difference if I cast Run Through at 5+ or 6 CP but
does that change when the buff Broadsides is up? Do I want to cast Run
Through at 4+ CP to not waste 2 CP if the Pistol Shot procs? If not, does it
change when I ALSO have the buff Jolly Roger up because more
pistol shot procs = more wasted CPs?
2. Following questions are about the OPENING sequence with Adrenaline and
- 2.1 The Icy-Veins guide tells me to keep Shark Invested Waters or 2 buffs.
Other sources say that true bearing is also worth keeping because it resets
Adrenaline Rush, is it good to keep this buff aswell?
- 2.2 Are there exceptions aswell with the 2 buffs ? I feel like Broadsides, Jolly
Roger and Buried Treasure are useless in the opener because of
Adrenaline Rush and Artifact. Whats the benefit in rolling Broadsides +
Jolly Roger ?
- 2.3 Do you always want have the in 2.1 mentioned buffs up BEFORE you use
your cooldowns even if u get unlucky and fish multiple times or do you just
use CDs and fish while using them ? It doesnt really make a difference for
me if I fish 4 times before CDs or 4 times in CDs except I have DMG trinkets
or other DMG increases activated, right?
Okay these are all the things that bothered me while playing
It would be awesome if you guys could discuss these questions with me !
Hello all, so I am a loooong time returning rogue (TBC). So, needless to say, I know little to nothing about rogues anymore. I only leveled my rogue after each new pac, then ended up losing interest. Legion has my attention, I love it so far, and I would LOVE to start playing rogue again. I heard that outlaw was the way to go in regards to leveling, so I tried it, but the RNG kills me. I can't stand Roll the Bones. Sure, it adds "mystery", but I would rather be calculated than 'lucky'.
However, the main problem I have with Outlaw is the survivability. Of course, rogues are squishy. But with the play style that Outlaw lends itself toward, I feel that I shouldn't be near death after only 2 mobs (which has been the case, add in a third and I am dead). Now, I am not sure if I am doing something wrong - I have read all of Icy Veins tutorials and guides on rogues. But I am wondering if maybe I should switch to Assassin or Sub? do they have more control/survivability?
And numbers aside, do you guys like them? Are they FUN?