Mistweaver Monk 5.2 (65 replies to this topic)

This may be a really stupid comment, but I'm totally stumped by the 3145 haste + 5% raid haste buff = 16.65% haste.  My monk is at 3247 haste.  While benefiting from the 5% haste buff, I'm only looking at 13.3% haste.  However, 4145 haste with the 5% raid haste buff puts one at 16.0% haste.  Is this a typo in the guide or am I just missing something or reading incorrectly?

Lylibean, on 28 December 2012 - 08:51 AM, said:

I believe this is a small typo. The 3145 haste rating is the haste rating you need in tiger stance (not in serpent stance), if you have +5% haste in your raid.  In serpent stance with +5% haste this will give you 16.65%.

I'm guessing your 3247 haste is in serpent stance?

Mad monk is correct.  If you have 3145 in tiger stance, you will have (some number upwards of 4000) in serpent stance.

krazyito65, on 28 December 2012 - 10:51 AM, said:

4719 to be exact, if you have 4719 haste rating in serpent stance you're good to go.

MadMonk, on 28 December 2012 - 11:15 AM, said:

Thanks.  I'm assuming though that people are recommending going for 3145 out of stance for a reason no?  Do reforge addons (reforge lite) not work well while in serpent stance?  I know for sure websites (Mr. Robot and wow reforge) only account for the haste in tiger stance.

I think websites alone are a good enough reason to tell people to go to 3145 haste.

Hey guys let me first say your guides are great. however I find that they all assume that the players are lvl 90 and have all the spells and abilites etc.
i have just started a new monk and have never played a healer before and wanted a starting point guide on the best way to play. this is way to complex for a low lvl player to get anything out of it when we dont even have the spells as yet. I am sure I am not the only one who finds this no help for a starter. where do us noobs go for help Keep up the awesome work best guides for high lvl players.

Thormentia, on 30 December 2012 - 01:44 PM, said:

Thank you for your nice words

We'd love to have guides for lower levels, but sadly we cannot spare the (relatively high) amount of time it would take to write and maintain these guides. Moreover, most of our readers (and I'd say most players in general) are interested in high level content, since that is by far the most difficult/challenging, and the one where your actions really have a chance of impacting others (if you fail to heal properly, your raid wipes and blades you; if you fail at level 33, you die on the quest and have to run back).

And without meaning to sound condescending, leveling up is generally pretty easy. A mere glance at your spell tooltips and the "Core abilities" page should be enough to get you going

crit>mastery and haste after the softcap for sure

qurp, on 06 January 2013 - 09:17 PM, said:

Could you elaborate a bit more? Just giving statements like this without any explanation or theory is not very useful.

Could i get some info/feedback for the mistweaver monk as tank healer pls?

Thormentia, on 30 December 2012 - 01:44 PM, said:

The only thing i can suggest is that you just practice a newhealing spell on yourself first a bit, see how much it heals, see when they recommend at high lvl to use that spell. and just practice in a low lvl dungeon. i'm lvling it my self atm and i just jab and black out kick as not much healing needed xD for the rest i just spam that HoT channeling spell (sorry don't know the names yet) change target when needed (no point in w8ing till the channeling is complete if the target is maxed right?) and then i just test some other spells out even if it over heals, see how much it does

a guide can help, but testing yourself will make the result a lot better in my opinion

Shamphoo,  In a raid setting a monk should never be the sole responsible tank healer.  Too much potential to go OOM to save spike damage if it happens.

If you are leveling (as it seems from your second post) then if you feel you like you need to do some single target healing this is what you do:

• Renewing mists the target and keep on CD
  
• Soothing mists channel the target
  
• Enveloping Mists
  
• keep channeling Soothing mists and enveloping mists
  
• Life Cocoon for a CD.
  
• if the target is taking large spike damage and they are need to be healed to full quickly, While soothing mists is channeling use spam surging mists until healed to full.  Try to add Enveloping mists before you do this.

Not really much esle to a monks single target rotation.

Hey

I have leveling Mistweaver monk, and I'm so troubled of what talents are the best for healing.
I would like to ask some help in that case.

For leveling in dungeons I would say take these:

Chi Wave
Ascension OR Chi Brew.  --Either is fine, if you like to use Jab a lot Power Strikes is a good option as well.
Leg Sweep --Awesome for stunning big AoE pulls.
Dampen Harm  --Most dungeons aren't really magic heavy when it comes to healers dieing.  Though if you find a magic thing to mitigate, use Diffuse Magic.
Xuen  --For most dungeons, he does good AoE damage and healing through Eminence.

That is just a "cookie cutter" spec that works ok for almost all situations.  You can (and SHOULD) change them around depending on what you are doing.

krazyito65, on 22 January 2013 - 12:02 AM, said:

Alright, thank you. That was great help to me.

I think for 5.2, Once you get your T15 2pc bouns, that the next haste breakpoint for ReM should be met, which would be 6141 haste rating (or 27.76%)

Please fix the monk MW haste requirement, someone transposed the 3145 and it should be 1345 and then fix the dranei value as well. It will screw up many people

Dinglenuts, on 12 March 2013 - 03:34 AM, said:

You are wrong.

If you read the rest of the thread it states that the current correct value is 3145.  The next value is 6141 at around 500~ ilvl.

1345 WAS the pre-5.1 haste value, but then we got a buff to our haste in 5.1

Also, what do you mean about the Dreani value?  for hit?  Hit does not matter for a MW..

Are those haste values correct? cause i have nowhere near 16% at that low haste?

Khaelan, on 20 March 2013 - 12:55 AM, said:

Do you have the 5% haste raid buff? and in serpent stance?  If you have 3145 haste OUTSIDE of serpent stance then you will be fine.

The breakpoint after that is 6141