Survival Hunter 6.2

[Orthios 271]

So I have looked at some guides on this and taken a look at what the best hunters in the world are doing.  In all cases, crit is the #1 stat with multistrike.  The guide needs to be updated to reflect that.  Even the hunter who supposedly helped write this, Azortharion, has his crit above his multistrike at the moment on his survival hunter.  Can we get this guide updated with the proper stats please?

 

Berdine

Do NOT spread misinformation.  Azortharion's Hunter Guide DOES NOT have crit>MS for any spec. 

If you're referring to the fact that he has more crit on his gear than multistrike, then the answer should be obvious:  6 of his pieces (including weapon, legs, and boots) have a higher stat allocation for crit, and gearing is fairly limited at this stage considering highmaul gear has a ton of crit on it and brf has been out for less than a week to get the MS gear.

[Niix 169]

So I have looked at some guides on this and taken a look at what the best hunters in the world are doing.  In all cases, crit is the #1 stat with multistrike.  The guide needs to be updated to reflect that.  Even the hunter who supposedly helped write this, Azortharion, has his crit above his multistrike at the moment on his survival hunter.  Can we get this guide updated with the proper stats please?

 

Berdine

 

I'm curious as to who you think is "the best hunters in the world"

 

The guides are properly updated with the correct stats. As Orthios has mentioned above, crit is far more abundant on gear in Highmaul, however in full BiS Foundry gear we will have much more Multistrike. 

[Berdine 1]

Ok,

 

    So what i looked at is the top hunters on heroic highmaul fights under rankings.  all of their gear is crit first, including the reviewer.  now, if that is only because of the stat weights in highmaul, ok.  Thats fine.  then I was wrong.  absolutely.  

 

Berdine

[Guest Ziros]

This is probably a stupid question, but is someone able to explain the below to me?

 

"For single target DPS, Barrage is the best choice, provided that you are also using the Steady Focus talent."

 

I can't work out what the correlation between Barrage and Steady Focus is, which results in a DPS increase. Why is Barrage the best choice only when you have taken Steady Focus as well?

 

This guide is rarely updated and no one ever answers important questions.

[Oltier 471]

This guide is rarely updated and no one ever answers important questions.

Because those kind of questions should be asked in the appropriate Hunter forum subsection, not here.

[Orthios 271]

This guide is rarely updated and no one ever answers important questions.

How about the fact that the person you quoted WAS answered by Vlad:

 

 

This is probably a stupid question, but is someone able to explain the below to me?

 

"For single target DPS, Barrage is the best choice, provided that you are also using the Steady Focus talent."

 

I can't work out what the correlation between Barrage and Steady Focus is, which results in a DPS increase. Why is Barrage the best choice only when you have taken Steady Focus as well?

 

The reason for it is that Steady Focus grants you enough extra Focus to warrant the otherwise expensive Barrage.

 

You're also quoting something that is more than 1.5 months old.  

 

Outside of this, you offer no constructive criticism, and if you bothered to read the rest of the topic, you'd see that myself, Nnx, Azor, Vlad, and Damien all answer questions here, but as Oltier said, some questions are better posed within the Hunter sub-forum.

[wagnerkid 0]

i have one question, since 6.1 everyone is saying versa is better then  crit, if it is true , the new alchemy trinket Stone of fire is the trinket for us  Sv hunters? better them Scales of doom HM for example???

thank you

[Orthios 271]

i have one question, since 6.1 everyone is saying versa is better then  crit, if it is true , the new alchemy trinket Stone of fire is the trinket for us  Sv hunters? better them Scales of doom HM for example???

thank you

BiS trinkets are Scales of Doom + Beating Heart of the Mountain. MS is only too powerful for SV hunters.

[Guest Leoflame]

is murder of crows still better than stampede? and is lonewolf or exotic munitions(fire) better as last talent, dont like using focusing shot even if it provides more dps

[Guest Grom]

why, why, why, Powershot...and why, why, why LW...I'm in this one shot and get a full focus bar rotation 

[Guest Geez]

I think it's funny that both commented survival players are both marksmanship and beast mastery, as well as a good amount of the players commenting. Not sure how you can manage to update a guide when you don't play the specialization. Cheers.

[Orthios 271]

I think it's funny that both commented survival players are both marksmanship and beast mastery, as well as a good amount of the players commenting. Not sure how you can manage to update a guide when you don't play the specialization. Cheers.

Just because they don't play the spec currently doesn't mean they don't know how to.

[Azortharion 60]

I think it's funny that both commented survival players are both marksmanship and beast mastery, as well as a good amount of the players commenting. Not sure how you can manage to update a guide when you don't play the specialization. Cheers.

 

This is not a very informed comment for the reason that Orthios mentioned.

 

The reason none of us play the spec is that it is currently worse than the other two.

 

As a general rule, top players review these guides. A top player would not play the worse spec, as a general statement, so you're asking for something near-impossible.

 

With Survival being the simplest spec of them all, do you not think that players who are mastering the other two would have a pretty in-depth understanding of it, as well as ability to play it, if it was worth playing?

[Guest Babaganoosh]

I think it's funny that both commented survival players are both marksmanship and beast mastery, as well as a good amount of the players commenting. Not sure how you can manage to update a guide when you don't play the specialization. Cheers.

If you even bothered to read the comments you'd see they given an answer to a comment exactly the same as yours.

[Guest guest]

This guide is way out of date. Any updated soon?

 

[Orthios 271]

This guide is way out of date. Any updated soon?

First, just saying the guide is out of date provides no real or useful feedback. Second, the guide isn't out of date at all, except maybe recommending to use Explosion be a trap on CD on single target.

[Jezek 0]

I didn't see it before but my question has already been answered. Please delete this post.

Edited May 7, 2016 by Jezek