Assassination Rogue 6.2

[Oltier 471]

So I am coming back after a long break since Data, but am I missing S&D in the opening rotation? Is it no longer a necessary buff? If so, why?

Improved Slice and Dice

[Guest nightshiver,rexxar]

I'm not a numbers guy by any stretch so mabey someone can figure this out for me. With envenom being our single highest attack, it makes sense to me that I should pool cp up to 10 (via anticipation) before using SR macro. That would give 6-8 envenoms over 16 seconds before re applying rupture.

[Damien 1,514]

I'm not a numbers guy by any stretch so mabey someone can figure this out for me. With envenom being our single highest attack, it makes sense to me that I should pool cp up to 10 (via anticipation) before using SR macro. That would give 6-8 envenoms over 16 seconds before re applying rupture.

This is what you should do. I realise that the guide was not explicitly saying that, so I made a few changes.

[Guest BubbStubbley]

New player here, why is Ambush not mentioned at all in this guide?

 

It does more damage than mutilate as an opener, and is a closer while costing just 5 more energy.

[jonjonz 0]

I am wondering why the skill Ambush is not even mentioned in the Assination guide.

 

It does quite a bit more damage than mutilate, generates the same number of combo points, and can be used as a closer while only costing 5 more energy.

 

I understand using mutilate once you are out of stealth. 

 

You get the same benefit from Shadow Focus, so why use mutilate as your opener as implied by the suggested rotation?

 

### Updated 4-14-2014 ###

 

I read some other posts here that explained in depth why you should open with mutilate and not ambush, so no need to reply now.

Edited April 15, 2015 by jonjonz

[Guest zeid]

What is the best way to maximize the SR macro? I realize you want to pool cp and energy but I've heard mixed reviews on if you want to rupture or how much you souks worry about clipping envenom while it's up?

Thanks

[Guest SuoSon]

Deadly Throw will mostly be useful in PvP, against healers and casters, but it can be used to still interrupt if you messed up a Kick.

 

explanation was tweaked, advice not :3

[Damien 1,514]

What is the best way to maximize the SR macro? I realize you want to pool cp and energy but I've heard mixed reviews on if you want to rupture or how much you souks worry about clipping envenom while it's up?

Thanks

 

I think it is best to ask this in the Rogue section of the forums.

Deadly Throw will mostly be useful in PvP, against healers and casters, but it can be used to still interrupt if you messed up a Kick.

 

explanation was tweaked, advice not :3

Good catch, thanks

[Guest Siomir]

Probably a stupid question, i see that mastery is my secondary stat, and i have mostly mastery on my gear anyway. I wonder I can't see Mastery: Potent Poisons.

anywhere on my rogue, not talents, not in the skills window. Where is this one?

 

[Guest Siomir]

 Mastery: Potent Poisons

 

I couldn't find this one anywhere in my skill book or talents on my rogue, is this recently removed or?  It's not anywhere as a passive either.

[Siomir 0]

By the way, you should add the Master Poisoner to the list and not the Mastery: Potent Poisons maybe? Minior detail i know. I could'nt understand what that spell was, as it was not in my spellbook at all, but after searching a little i found the passive mentioned above which made all the more sense.

Newbie rogue here ^^

[Guest ghostblade1]

sorry if this has been asked. the opening sequence confuses me a little it says to ideally cast as many envenoms as possible before shadow drops. so do i cast alot of 1point envenoms or do i do as im currently doing and cast mutilate to 5cp then envenom? what about rupture? do i not use rupture at all while reflection is up?

 

Thank you in advance for the help.

[ghostblade1 0]

im a little confused about the opener. it says ideally you want to cast as many envenoms as possible before shadow reflection drops off, so do i cast a series of 1cp envenoms or do i do as i am doing and mutilating to 5cp then envenom? what about rupture do i not use it all while reflection is up?

 

thank you in advance.

[Guest rightsock]

Hello!

 

As a rookie in this section, I wanted to know exactly why 2x the same enchant on weapon is better than 1 enchant each.

 

For example you say: 

 

• 2x  Enchant Weapon - Mark of Bleeding Hollow
• 2x  Enchant Weapon - Mark of the Shattered Hand (cheaper)

 

Then why not 1x Bleeding and 1x Shattred H. as an Assassination rogue?

 

Thanks guys!

 

[ghostblade1 0]

Hello!

 

As a rookie in this section, I wanted to know exactly why 2x the same enchant on weapon is better than 1 enchant each.

 

For example you say: 

 

• 2x  Enchant Weapon - Mark of Bleeding Hollow
• 2x  Enchant Weapon - Mark of the Shattered Hand (cheaper)

 

Then why not 1x Bleeding and 1x Shattred H. as an Assassination rogue?

 

Thanks guys!

hi i think its literally that the 500 mastery affects ur poisons directly so you gain alot of damage from envenom and poison applications weras the proc enchant just does set damage so its not as good. but it isnt bad if its all you can afford.

[Guest rightsock]

 

Hello!

 

As a rookie in this section, I wanted to know exactly why 2x the same enchant on weapon is better than 1 enchant each.

 

For example you say: 

 

• 2x  Enchant Weapon - Mark of Bleeding Hollow
• 2x  Enchant Weapon - Mark of the Shattered Hand (cheaper)

 

Then why not 1x Bleeding and 1x Shattred H. as an Assassination rogue?

 

Thanks guys!

hi i think its literally that the 500 mastery affects ur poisons directly so you gain alot of damage from envenom and poison applications weras the proc enchant just does set damage so its not as good. but it isnt bad if its all you can afford.

 

 

Thanks for your answer

 

I was wondering if it was viable to have 1H proc mastery buff and 1H haste buff.

It means direct dmg and more possibilities to make procs and so on to avoid internal CD to make procs wasted.

(A bit like 1H DK's in wotlk period)

[Guest Daniel]

So Shadow Reflection, according to sites, has 3% more dmg than Venom Rush. I however feel that I do more DPS when I use Venom rush. And also I like to go with Glyph of Energy instead of utility because it lets me do way more mutilates and Envenom. Especially if you have the set bonus. And I have on my rogue 690 ilvl so the Shadow Reflection might do more when you have higher gear but at lower ilvls I really suggest you guys try out Venom Rush especially if there are more targets!

[Guest mythasin]

If it is possible i would like to see the stat priority weights don't know if you have that or not

 

[Guest Shawnfail]

Quick question, the stat priority only has additional information for T17, does that mean with T18 it should be followed as normal?

[Guest Kroodt]

Hello, i have a quick Question. Why should i start my Rotation with Mutilate? Why not Ambush?

[Guest Guest]

Hello, i have a quick Question. Why should i start my Rotation with Mutilate? Why not Ambush?

Because Mutilate gives a 30% to let you use Dispatch for free. Mutilate + 30% of Dispatch damage (this gives the average damage you'll get from blindside procs over the course of the raid. Woo math) is more damage than Ambush.