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Posted 29 September 2012 - 11:28 PM

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Posted 03 October 2012 - 11:41 AM

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As always you have amazing guides. One question I have about Phase Two (Spirit of the Spear) is if the Nullification Barrier destroys Wildfire coming through it, or if it clears Feng's stacks gained from absorbing Wildfire. As one of the tanks last night, I attempted to stop him from gaining stacks during a Draw Flam and ended up dying from Wildfire, so either he stopped drawing in right when they were on top of me, or we're doing something wrong. Any helpful input is appreciated Posted Image

Posted 03 October 2012 - 04:08 PM

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You can use Reversal to take the tank debuff from the other tank when he is tanking to do damage to the boss. This gives the reversal tank massive damage and helps gets through phases quicker.

Here are our logs: http://www.worldoflo.../?s=8118&e=8551

Also, we didn't think about it last night but we are going to try tonight.. You might be able to use reversal on Epicenter and make the boss have a 75% chance to miss. Not entirely sure, but will come back if we try it tonight.

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Posted 03 October 2012 - 07:40 PM

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As always you have amazing guides. One question I have about Phase Two (Spirit of the Spear) is if the Nullification Barrier destroys Wildfire coming through it, or if it clears Feng's stacks gained from absorbing Wildfire. As one of the tanks last night, I attempted to stop him from gaining stacks during a Draw Flam and ended up dying from Wildfire, so either he stopped drawing in right when they were on top of me, or we're doing something wrong. Any helpful input is appreciated Posted Image


Well, this appears to still work from what I have seen. If you keep the boss in the Nullification Barrier while he is channeling, including when his
channel ends, he will not gain the Draw Flame buff at all. I don't know how it interacts with the Wildfire Sparks.

You can use Reversal to take the tank debuff from the other tank when he is tanking to do damage to the boss. This gives the reversal tank massive damage and helps gets through phases quicker.

Here are our logs: http://www.worldoflo.../?s=8118&e=8551

Also, we didn't think about it last night but we are going to try tonight.. You might be able to use reversal on Epicenter and make the boss have a 75% chance to miss. Not entirely sure, but will come back if we try it tonight.


Thanks. I've added the tank debuff / Shroud of Reversal stuff to the guide :)

Posted 04 October 2012 - 07:29 AM

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Well, this appears to still work from what I have seen. If you keep the boss in the Nullification Barrier while he is channeling, including when his channel ends, he will not gain the Draw Flame buff at all. I don't know how it interacts with the Wildfire Sparks.


Just wanted to report in since we downed him tonight. It seems that I was indeed in the path of the wildfire as it was being pulled into the boss. Considering it practically one-shot me, I can only guess that you take damage from any and all wildfires that pass over you as he absorbs them, so be sure to be out of their way while you channel the Nullification Barrier.

Edited by Hunnya, 04 October 2012 - 07:30 AM.

Posted 04 October 2012 - 07:34 AM

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Hey there, you can use the "Shroud of Reversal" to Stun the Boss. When he uses the ability "Lighting Fists" use the Shrould of Reversal to get this effect from the Main Tank (he must be hit from this attack). Now you can Stun Feng with this ability, when he casts Epicenter. The healing faction of your raid will tankh you a lot for this ;-) Greets, Blacktemplar

Posted 04 October 2012 - 12:17 PM

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Just wanted to report in since we downed him tonight. It seems that I was indeed in the path of the wildfire as it was being pulled into the boss. Considering it practically one-shot me, I can only guess that you take damage from any and all wildfires that pass over you as he absorbs them, so be sure to be out of their way while you channel the Nullification Barrier.


Thanks! I was able to confirm again that it does work to prevent him gaining the Draw Flame buff, by the way.

Hey there,

you can use the "Shroud of Reversal" to Stun the Boss. When he uses the ability "Lighting Fists" use the Shrould of Reversal to get this effect from the Main Tank (he must be hit from this attack). Now you can Stun Feng with this ability, when he casts Epicenter. The healing faction of your raid will tankh you a lot for this ;-)

Greets,
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Wow, that is very useful. You can be it's going to make its way into the guide shortly. Thank you!

Posted 04 October 2012 - 02:44 PM

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Hey there,

you can use the "Shroud of Reversal" to Stun the Boss. When he uses the ability "Lighting Fists" use the Shrould of Reversal to get this effect from the Main Tank (he must be hit from this attack). Now you can Stun Feng with this ability, when he casts Epicenter. The healing faction of your raid will tankh you a lot for this ;-)

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Haha I said I would be back to say about reversal epicenter but before raid we figured this out and did it instead. We had trouble getting it every time though.

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 05:36 PM

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Phase 3 should not be stacking on the boss. Arcane Resonance ticks quickly and wipes the group in two. Your raid group should position itself in a circle around Feng in the center of the room. This minimizes damage from Arcane Resonance because there are less allies within a 6 yard range of each other, which decreases damage.

Posted 04 October 2012 - 09:22 PM

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So we were trying this boss quite a few times tonight and we had an addon to let us know if anyone was standing in wild fire but the boss gained up to 24 stacks of debuff when he used "draw flame" and we have been unable to figure out why, can anyone shed any light on this particular part of the boss fight ? why does he gains that many charges ? there is no way there was 24 patches of fire on the ground and according to all the logs we can find maybe 1 or 2 people where hit by wild fire the entire fight.

Posted 04 October 2012 - 10:29 PM

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For us the boss seems to bug a lot... His stacks of Draw Flame just don't correlate to the sparks in any way... There are basically no flames out there, he draws the few that are in and reaches 8 stacks. Then he just rises to 24 for no apparent reason... really annoying...

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 10:39 PM

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Yes this boss is so buggy! The shroud of reversal does not always work and in phase 3 we were taking over 100k per second damage from arcane velocity :s Still beat him down though :)

Posted 04 October 2012 - 11:46 PM

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Third phase strategy (grouping up) is wrong. We killed him today using following tactics for third phase - we tanked boss in middle of the room having raid spread on inner ring around him (8 players can easily stand here having appropriate range for Arcane Resonance). We stack up on boss for Arcane Velocity (player with Arcane Resonance stays on inner ring), but we spread quickly one second before he finished Arcane Velocity cast (because he could cast Arcane Resonance immediately at the end of the cast and it will cause wipe in one second). We have dedicated positions for each player, this way Arcane Resonance required no special handling and dealing no extra damage.

Posted 05 October 2012 - 01:20 AM

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Thank you for your comments regarding Phase Three. While I wouldn't quite agree that the strategy is "wrong" (having killed it on the Beta by stacking up), I do certainly agree that it could have been improved. I've made edits to the relevant sections to recommend spreading around Feng until the Resonance goes out, and then stacking up closer to him for the Velocity (which is channeled, and, in my experience, he doesn't cast Resonance while channeling Velocity). Since Velocity seems to be on about a 20 second timer, there should be plenty of time to move out again and wait for a Resonance. Thank you all again, and keep the comments coming :)

Posted 05 October 2012 - 04:25 AM

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Thank you for your comments regarding Phase Three. While I wouldn't quite agree that the strategy is "wrong" (having killed it on the Beta by stacking up), I do certainly agree that it could have been improved.

I've made edits to the relevant sections to recommend spreading around Feng until the Resonance goes out, and then stacking up closer to him for the Velocity (which is channeled, and, in my experience, he doesn't cast Resonance while channeling Velocity). Since Velocity seems to be on about a 20 second timer, there should be plenty of time to move out again and wait for a Resonance.

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While this is true, if he casts resonance at the same time he finishes velocity, resonance will instantly tick on your whole raid and kill you.

I actually have a video of this happening to me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44OGJVgsPGU&t=5m46s

Here is the YouTube video, set to go to the relevant time.

Edited by krazyito65, 05 October 2012 - 04:36 AM.

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 04:42 PM

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While this is true, if he casts resonance at the same time he finishes velocity, resonance will instantly tick on your whole raid and kill you.

I actually have a video of this happening to me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44OGJVgsPGU&t=5m46s

Here is the YouTube video, set to go to the relevant time.


Thanks! I've changed the wording further to reflect your post. Can you read the section and tell me if it's more in line with how you felt about the phase?

Posted 05 October 2012 - 05:02 PM

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Perfect Vlad. You may want to mention that he wont cast Resonance while he is channeling Velocity, and if resonance is off CD then most of the time he will cast it immediately. but that may be too much extra information to put in there.

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 12:20 AM

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Perfect Vlad.

You may want to mention that he wont cast Resonance while he is channeling Velocity, and if resonance is off CD then most of the time he will cast it immediately.

but that may be too much extra information to put in there.


Done :)

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By the way, are you 100% sure that if you stand in sparks path to the boss when he is absorbing them, he doesnt get the buff stacks for them? Because if so, it would be a viable strategy to soak them with my monk using Zen meditation and Diffuse magic, which, combined with the Barrier, would nullify almost all raiddmg in phase 2..

Posted 07 October 2012 - 07:42 PM

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By the way, are you 100% sure that if you stand in sparks path to the boss when he is absorbing them, he doesnt get the buff stacks for them? Because if so, it would be a viable strategy to soak them with my monk using Zen meditation and Diffuse magic, which, combined with the Barrier, would nullify almost all raiddmg in phase 2..


I'm not sure what you are asking..

If you are talking about lightning fists, then what happens is
1) Reversal tank uses Reversal on Nullification tank before lightning fists goes out.
2) Nullification tank gets hit my spark and gets stunned.
3)Reversal tank uses the new ability he gained when the boss is casting Epicenter

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