Amygdalla 4 Report post Posted January 29, 2015 I would highly recommend upgrading it to stage 3. I would wager to say it's BiS (esp when you can upgrade it to stage 4) along with Ironspike Chew Toy in BRF. As for myself, I use Mythic shards/stage 3 Hourglass for the vast majority of fights. I use Emblem for super long fights like Imp. Like I said, I dont even know how to make that kind of gold. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pandacho 286 Report post Posted January 30, 2015 Like I said, I dont even know how to make that kind of gold. You don't have to buy anything for the upgrades - just make a use of your Garrison. Add a lvl 2 Inscriprion building, so you could use a follower for double yield of War paints, take a follower with the Inscription trait from the tavern if you don't have it already. Use your garden to get herbs for Inscript. Exchange Primal Spirits (you get them from Herb and Mining in your Garrison) for Savage Blood. Build lvl 3 Barn and hunt animals for Savage Blood too. As I said - no money is involved in crafted items upgrade - only time spending in your Garrison. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amygdalla 4 Report post Posted January 30, 2015 You don't have to buy anything for the upgrades - just make a use of your Garrison. Add a lvl 2 Inscriprion building, so you could use a follower for double yield of War paints, take a follower with the Inscription trait from the tavern if you don't have it already. Use your garden to get herbs for Inscript. Exchange Primal Spirits (you get them from Herb and Mining in your Garrison) for Savage Blood. Build lvl 3 Barn and hunt animals for Savage Blood too. As I said - no money is involved in crafted items upgrade - only time spending in your Garrison. Pandacho, you're the bomb diggity! I am on my way to get this done. <3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomDikenhari 0 Report post Posted January 31, 2015 I have the stage 3 Winged Hourglass and heroic warforged Shards of Nothing. Yesterday, I pulled an Everburning Candle out of a salvage crate (Woo!). I'm having a hard time deciding whether or not I should bind it or sell it. The mana return would still be beneficial to me, I feel, in part because I don't really think the other shaman in our 15-man 3-heal raid is really pulling his weight. Is it reasonable to assume that I should equip the candle and the hourglass? I have yet to use the Shards of Nothing, as it dropped on our last kill last week. Also, should I equip it, which one of the two should I replace with the Ironspike Chew Toy should it drop for me? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pandacho 286 Report post Posted February 1, 2015 I have the stage 3 Winged Hourglass and heroic warforged Shards of Nothing. Yesterday, I pulled an Everburning Candle out of a salvage crate (Woo!). I'm having a hard time deciding whether or not I should bind it or sell it. The mana return would still be beneficial to me, I feel, in part because I don't really think the other shaman in our 15-man 3-heal raid is really pulling his weight. Is it reasonable to assume that I should equip the candle and the hourglass? I have yet to use the Shards of Nothing, as it dropped on our last kill last week. Also, should I equip it, which one of the two should I replace with the Ironspike Chew Toy should it drop for me? I'm going with this Stoove's table of trinkets weights. Full article is here. I would say: stage 3 Winged Hourglass + Everburning Candle for now, stage 4 Winged Hourglass + Ironspike Chew Toy for BRF, but keep in mind that I'm not a big theorycrafter :) You can definitely use both Winged Hourglass and Shards of Nothing, alternating them for fights depending on what you need more - mana or haste. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Houselol 0 Report post Posted February 2, 2015 Opinions onAuto-Repairing Autoclave? Personally I'm seeing a lot of upside to increased haste levels as my gear has gotten better, and one of the only downsides of haste is the the increased consumption in mana. This trinket gives a significant amount of static spirit, almost 500 with the 680 version. Take that into perspective when I have 1200 spirit total in my gear at a 678 iLvl, and I can see some serious value to this trinket. I know some people are opposed to throughput procs on healing trinkets, but I think this trinket can should be taken into consideration for BiS. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grahmrook 6 Report post Posted February 4, 2015 *Happy dance* got my 119192-ironspike-chew-toy?bonusIDs=42%2c566" data-ipb="noparse">Ironspike Chew Toy on a bonus roll! I am using it and my Everburning Candle. Wall of text question line and updated info. I apologize also if it sounds a bit disjointed. To begin, I used Stoove's spreadsheet from earlier in this thread and some of the values are incorrect vs. live (side question: are the values in that still valid with the changes to haste?). Chew toy is 219 not 139 Int @ 680 ilvl. So plugging that value in gives us an updated score of 589 total value, putting it hands down BiS. A snippet of the items and values are listed below for quick reference. I also have Mark of Rapid Replication with 50 Mastery gem available. Using the adjust values for my Mark, puts it at a very respectable 482 rating, statistically beating out my Candle. Now the largest issue with losing Candle, is 334 Int is huge with a 1/3rd mana pot every 2 min. vs the static Spirit and little bit of Mastery. As a third option for the second trinket slot, I have Winged Hourglass. With all that said, I am looking for opinions on the second trinket slot. Do I stick with the Candle or swap it for one of my other 2 options? Does the 422 Spirit trump the 10k mana? With Mark, my spirit is about 1600, so I am still not sure how much is too much. On a side note, I get to revisit this again when 6.1 hits with the upgrade to 680 on hourglass. Thoughts? 589 Ironspike Chew Toy 405 Auto-Repairing Autoclave 349 Blackiron Micro Crucible 347 Elementalist's Shielding Talisman 285 Darmac's Unstable Talisman 258 Goren Soul Repository 442 Winged Hourglass 3 372 Quiescent Runestone 381 Mark of Rapid Replication 366 Shards of Nothing 401 Emblem of Caustic Healing 446 Everburning Candle 384 Winged Hourglass 2 335 Winged Hourglass 1 485 Winged Hourglass 4 (Still on PTR) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites