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Storm's Unholy Rotation Helper (Weak Auras)

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Hey guys, I've been working on a Weak Aura to help me get used to the unholy rotation, and also to take my mind off what ability I should be hitting next, so I can focus more on mechanics. I think I have 95% of the rotation completed optimally When I first began making this weak aura I was barely doing 15k dps as unholy. After making it I almost instantly jumped to 18k, now with some more tweaking to the aura, advice from other players, and just more practice and a little bit more gear I'm consistently pulling 20k+ and am in the 70th-80th percentile, and definitely performing a lot better on mechanics.

 

This is still a work in progress, and if any of you are interested and do try it out, I'd love your feedback as to what I can do to improve it. anything I can do to help your rotation is going to help my rotation, and help everyone else's rotation too. I'd also really appreciate the help of anyone that has more experience than me with Weak Auras, and especially LUA, I have a few things in my wish list at the end that I just can't figure out how to do.

 

The weak aura now consists of 2 separate weak auras. These 2 seperate auras can be moved around and positioned wherever is most convenient for your UI, and also now allows for more choices in regards to when to use defile and gargoyle the weak aura are:

 

Unholy CD's - This consists of Defile, Gargoyle, Raise Dead, and Empower Rune Weapon, and Draenic Strength Potion. This aura is mostly for cooldown tracking purposes. When Defile or Gargoyle are off CD, they'll display an icon on your screen. When your pet isn't present and you're in combat Raise dead will display. and Empower Rune Weapon displays when a whole bunch of conditions are met (all runes completed exhausted, low RP, and plague leech on CD). The strength potion I've set to only display in raid, and when the target is under 45% hp. Assuming you pre pot, this will pop up for your second pot when the boss is in soul reaper range.

 

Unholy Rotation - This weak aura consists of the rest of the Unholy rotaiton. It'll tell you to soul reaper in execute range, It tracks your diseases on the target and tells you when to reapply them. It can figure out when to spam death coil to empower your ghoul, and when to sit on your RP, but it will also make sure you aren't sitting at 100% rp even with an empowered ghoul. It manages  Festering Strike vs. Scourge Strike fairly well. Everything on the rotation bar will display in order of priority from left to right. many abilities will display at the same time now with the new version, but some abilities mostly suppress the other abilties, such as missing diseases will stop scourge strike from showing up until you reapply diseases.

 

My Wish List for the Aura:

I want to find a way to track the number of targets within 15 yards so I can work in blood boil for an aoe roation. I spent about 30min doing some google searches and couldn't find anything about it, the best I could find is someone saying it would need to be done with a custom script that pulls the information out of the combat log. If anyone has any experience with this I'd love some help or even just to point me in the right direction.

 

Unholy CD's

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Unholy Rotation

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I've tested your settings on a training dummy...and it is awesome :) for the (short) duration of my test it did a very solid job. i will give it a try in highmaul tomorrow ;)

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I wouldn't call it 100% perfect, but it does 2 things well. it let's you know when defile, gargoyle, and other cooldowns are available, and most of the time it'll tell you the highest priority ability you should be using. It's still a little bit weird with the scourge strike spam portion of the rotation, and sometimes it doesn't put deathcoil as high priority as it should be for empowering your ghoul, and also sometimes if 2 abilities come up at the same time it kind of freaks out. like if diseases aren't on a target but before you outbreak defile comes off cooldown it'll sometimes freak out. but for the most part if you mostly have an idea what your rotation should be, it's good at reminding you what's best most of the time.

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Very nice Storm.  I was actually working on something similar, I think I might see and fold what I was working on together with yours.  Pretty sweet!

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Updated the string. Added Empower Rune Weapon into the rotation, and also cleared up some conditions for Death Coil so it shouldn't show up twice at the same time.

 

I've been using this in heroic dungeons, a challenge mode earlier today, and normal Mar'Gok. The worst my dps has been is about 17k, and I've been as high as 22k on a strictly single target fight. I'm easily 4-5k dps higher than my average before making the weak aura.

 

Oh, also I had someone message me earlier saying the aura kept getting stuck on plague strike for them even though diseases were up on the target, but I can't seem to recreate the problem. has anyone else run into this issue?

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1) Spoiler tags bro. Makes the post not look so terribly long. =P

2) I can probably help you with some LUA things. Just let me know what you need and I can probably figure it out.

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Gj job, ur WA rly helps me with unholy rotation (im rly new to DK class) I have probaly found another bug. somtimes WA says i should cast Empower Rune Weapon but it was used like 30sec ago so its still on CD. I hope u will continue this project

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Fixed the empower rune weapon issue. I forgot to add a condition to check to see if it's on CD.

 

also added a spoiler tag to the post. I actually looked for the spoiler tag when I made the post, and could have sworn I tried

. it worked this time though.

 

edit: Also updated even after I made this post initially. I realized the last few times I updated I forgot to turn off button glow, which doesn't share very well, and probably made some weird buttons glow for the rest of you.

 

Some of the things I'm going to be working on:

- Figure out if WA can determine how many mobs are in range and switch to the aoe rotation (aka blood boil with your death runes instead of scourge strike spam)

- Figure out if there's a way to do button glow for the spell, and not for the button position itself. that way it will be much easier to share the aura with button glow turned on.

- Start working on the same type of weak aura for Frost and Blood.

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Hey there, big thanks for your effort! I'm going to try it, though where exactly do I have to put the string into? Never used Weak Auras beforehappy.png .

 

EDIT: Well kinda awkward, fairly easy to find. 

 

EDIT #2: After using Outbreak, the symbol for Plague Strike remained, would look into that.

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You're the second person that's had an issue with plague strike not going away, but I can't seem to recreate the problem. That particular aura only has 4 conditions and they are basically as follows.

 

Trigger 1: 

Type: Aura

Aura: Blood Plague

Unit: Target

Aura Type: Debuff

Own Only: Checked

Inverse: Checked (meaning it triggers if everything above can't be found)

 

Tigger 2:

Defile on CD

 

Trigger 3:

Gargoyle on CD

 

Trigger 4:

Outbreak on CD

 

That's all their is to that one, what seems to be happening for some people is that the weak aura isn't figuring out that blood plague is on the target, I don't even bother tracking frost fever because they'll always both be applied and/or dropped at the same time. I notice you're from Germany, I wonder if Blood Plague has a different spell ID in the EU client.

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Another bug is like when i dont wanna cast defile i wont see my rotation bcs i see only defile

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Another bug is like when i dont wanna cast defile i wont see my rotation bcs i see only defile

 

That was a choice I made. i originally started out with every icon displaying when their conditions were met, and lining up in order of priority from left to right, this still somtimes happens with a few abilities like soul reaper. and sometimes death coil or plague leech because I can't program it not to happen with the options available.

 

I then figured out that for most abilties I could set them up to figure out if a higher priority ability is available and not display. that way for the most part there will only be one ability shown.

 

There shouldn't be a lot of situations where you want to sit on defile, unless you know for sure the boss is about to move. I should be able to fairly easily take some of the conditions out that are making only 1 ability display though, and then in the middle of the screen you'll sometimes have 4-5 abilities lined up in order of priority, if that's something that people would like better.

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Found a solution to the disease problem on German clients, thanks to help from Hansi who pm'd me and was having an issue also. that the weak aura doesn't correctly search for 'Blood Plague' on the German client. If you're having this issue you'll need to go into the weak aura settings, and change trigger 1 for outbreak, trigger 1 for plague strike, trigger 4 for festering strike, and trigger 4 for each of the scourge strike's. on all of them you'll need to change the Aura(s) from 'Blood Plague' to "Blutseuche". 

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This one works for me on the german client. I changed each "Blood Plague" into "Blutseuche" and "Sudden Doom" into "Hereinbrechende Verdammnis". Guess that's all.

 

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Dude, Dude.. Thank you so much. 

I've been playing frost for as long as i can remember so unholy doesent come as naturally to me. 
I knew the prio on the spells, but something felt off. With this. Well, i'll just show you. 

Test, before setting up your weak aura: 

[14:48:35] [insadrian]: Recount - Damage Done for Highlord's Nemesis Trainer 14:30:37-14:32:30
[14:48:36] [insadrian]: 1. Insadrian 1,650,945 (14199.2, 100%)

After setting it up. 
[14:48:47] [insadrian]: Recount - Damage Done for Highlord's Nemesis Trainer 14:46:00-14:47:43
[14:48:47] [insadrian]: 1. Insadrian 1,655,473 (15559.0, 100%)

That's a 1400 dps boost. i <3 you

 

I know, it's a rather small test sample, and it's without SR, but hot damn, that's a big difference! 
You're my savior, in fact, i created an account just to thank you. 

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Hey guys, I've been working on a Weak Aura to help me get used to the unholy rotation, and also to take my mind off what ability I should be hitting next, so I can focus more on mechanics. I think I have 95% of the rotation completed optimally now and I've already increased my unholy dps from well under 15k to 18k+ just based on executing the rotation a little bit better than I was before.

 

This is still a work in progress, and if any of you are interested and do try it out, I'd love your feedback as to what I can do to improve it. anything I can do to help your rotation is going to help my rotation too, which is the other reason I'm sharing this. I'd also really appreciate the help of anyone that has more experience than me with Weak Auras, and especially LUA.

 

Essentially what this Weak Aura does is it's going to put an icon on your screen for the ability you should hit next. occasionally 2 or 3 abilities may be on screen at the same time, if this happens the ability on the left will always be the highest priority. I'm working to decrease the amount of times this happens, but I just can't figure out a way to eliminate it for all cases. I've also played around with causing the button to flash on the action bar, but this has to be customized for each UI, so that code isn't in this version that I'm sharing, but if people start using this then later I'll make a video about how to turn that feature on.

 

Anyways, here's the string to put into Weak Auras. It's extremely long, but it's tracking 12 abilities some with as many as 6 conditions. Thanks for trying it out, and I hope you guys like it and it helps your dps a little bit like it did mine.

 

 
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Hey,

 

Where can i find your setting m8 i have weak auras 2 ..

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Click on the Show button next to the spoiler tag and copy the string to import into your WA2 setup

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Kudos Storm. This is a really sweet set of auras. However when I have it active in dungeons/raids it tends to hog a lot of my attention so I primarily use it to get better aquainted with the spec on a dummy and disable it for the actual content.

 

Very solid work, sir.

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Cerius:  I agree, it was like that for me at first too.  But once I got used to it, it does not really hog any more attention than any other weakaura that I have used or setup. :)

 

I do have one suggestion/request for it though.  I do not know how much changing/tweaking this will be going through, but it might be nice to have a version number in the group name.  Then it's easy to see if have the latest version before importing a new one. :)

 

Well, I guess I have two suggestions. :)  I think that it could use a really sweet name like "Unholy Grail" but that's just me. :D

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haha, unholy grail. I like it. Version numbers should be easy enough too. I'm still planning on making 2 different version also, one will be the current version that mostly tries to only have one ability on screen at a time, and a second version which doesn't hide abilities lower in the rotation, so for example, defile, gargoyle, and scourge strike may all be on the screen at the same time, in order of priority from left to right, so you can decide to skip defile if there's a lot of movement and it isn't a good time to use it.

 

another thing I ran into last night is saving unholy runes for soul reaper. as I was going through the rotation in execute phase I noticed I was sometimes using my last unholy rune on scourge strike a second before soul reaper was ready again, which then would lead to me waiting another 1-2 seconds for a rune to soul reaper. I'm not sure if I can do anything to fix that situation in the weak aura, but I plan on taking a look at it to see if I can do anything.

 

I'm really happy with where my dps was last night on Heroic butcher. Our kill was actually one of my lower attempts at 19k, which amazingly is only 40th percentile, but I was consistently around top 5 out of about 17 dps. a couple of attempts I was pulling 21k+. I'm going to continue making tweaks and see if I can get the weak aura to the point where anyone can use it to pull 75th percentile dps with little or no prior experience with the class.

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I have a couple of observations, and a couple of questions, some of which might be appropriate to this thread, and some that may not.  I hope I do not offend anyone by putting them all here, but since I am largely using this WA and seeing where it works for me, and where it does not...  I might as well just get on with it. :)

 

First, since sitting down with a target dummy Sunday morning and working a bit with this WA, and then going in to some dungeons for some practical application testing, I went in to raid tonight and did not pull less than 18k on a boss.  For me, this was a huge improvement, and I am *very* happy with the results.   (ilvl 637 and normal difficulty).

 

This is a *mighty fine* WeakAura, but, I do not think it can hit the 75th percentile in the current direction.   Mainly due to the fact that it tries to the entire rotation (which it does very well) in a single space (Whether going the one icon route, or priority route, listed left to right).  As good as these are, these will *never* be able to tell when it's time to switch to cleave, or AOE.  And, in order to do this, sometimes those decisions must be made.

 

Example 1: Gargoyle.  I do not mind using this on CD the whole time during raid, it will be back up by the time we pull the boss (at least in my raid group).  But in heroic dungeons, I want it for the boss, so I set this one to only load during raid.  I know to use it on the pull and on cd, but I like to have it show during raids.

 

Example 2: Blood Boil.  This is not in the WA at all, and I might be missing something here, but I did find my damage goes up a lot during cleave/aoe when using it correctly (at least, as I *think* it should be used correctly as Unholy).   Spreading diseases to all adds with one GCD is a good thing, having it in normal rotation is not. :D  So, I currently track if Blood Boil is available or not (after tiring of looking at my action bar for it, or spamming it when I could really be doing something better).

 

This is leading me to thinking of tracking a couple of things differently... for example, our big dps cooldown, which is gargoyle, is very different than how a warlock or warrior would track and use it.  For a warlock or warrior it is line it up with resources and a trinket if possible.  For Unholy it is, extra damage, fire it off.  At least, in most circumstances. :D

 

But then, we get to defile, which becomes more situational.  Is the target going to move?  Are there adds that are going to be incoming?

 

I am thinking, the way that it could look on screen are 3 different groups as such:

 

     (Cooldown)               (Situational)

                       (Rotation)

 

And could be prioritized by glowing, animations and such.

 

Cooldown:  Gargoyle, Dark Transformation

Rotation: Death Coil, Scource Strike, Festering Strike, Outbreak, Plague Strike, Plague Leech

Situational: Defile, Blood Boil

 

I admit that this type of design goes beyond the simplicity of what I believe you intended, but allows for a lot of variation, and will can actually resolve some of the issues that you are trying to correct for.  The cooldown part can be left alone, but the  situation side and rotation part could and would interact with each other while at the same time allowing the opportunity to provide for cooldown timings (Defile, Soul Reaper is coming up, do I *really* want to use this rune?)

 

Now, this approach would provide a solution for knowing that Soul Reaper was becoming available, and maybe delay Scourge Strike.  It would not be absolute, but through the use of glow, grow, bounce, or whatever animations on the availability it could provide a choice that would end up being more beneficial and somewhat easier to implement than an absolute rotation.

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I've made an account to just reply on this post, I totally agree with above post, eventho the weakaura is really great, with the above post it could be perfect! 

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V0.8 - Split the weak aura into two separate auras. One mostly tracks cooldowns, including strength potions now, and the second aura is the primary rotation. Both weak auras function in the same way, they'll display an ability when certain conditions are met for it's use. multiple abilities will sometimes display (especially with the CD's) and the ability on the left will always be the highest priority ability. Now that it's split into two you'll also have the ability to move them around independent of eachother. so you can put your rotation somewhere off to the side incase you just need a small reminder sometimes, and put the CD's in the middle of your screen so you never miss them, or stack both of them right above your action bar. It's up to you.

 

Incase anyone prefers the original version with 1 bar, where I tried to mostly only show 1 ability at a time, Gurblood's post on the first page will serve as an archive, since he quoted my post and it still has the original string. I won't be supporting that version anymore though unless for some reason I really don't like the 2 bar style.

 

Also, I added this into the main post, but I'll put it here too for more visibility. If anyone knows of a way to track how many enemies are within X range, within a weak aura, I could really use some help. 

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I just set it up since im pretty new to DK. I absoluty love it so far in single target fights I seem to do loads of damages.

 

Now im wondering can I add something to this WA thing so theres a aoe rotation aswell with the Blood Boil spell included?

 

Thanks so far!

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I've been trying to figure out how to do an aoe rotation, but the problem is there's no easy way to get weak auras to determine when there are multiple enemies in range. It will need a script that reads the combat log to figure out if enemies are in range, but I don't know how to do that.

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