5.1 Affliction Trinkets (42 replies to this topic)

Clearing all trinket work from before.  This is current data with all viable raid trinkets and their corresponding values.  Accurate as of 12/27/2012.

This should give a clearer picture of the trinket situation with Affliction.  I've simulated each trinket on its own against no trinkets equipped and evaluated them one by one along with the valor upgraded options.  I've also included my "paper evaluated DPS" which calculates theoretical DPS by using scale factors.  I've included both the paper DPS and the simulated DPS for a comparitive look (they are very close in values).

Scale Factors:
Int = 4.28
Haste = 2.39
Mastery = 2.40
Crit = 1.49

Blossom of Pure Snow
Upgrade=0: 5793 DPS (Paper DPS = 5957)
Upgrade=1: 6070 DPS (Paper DPS = 6179)
Upgrade=2: 6301 DPS (Paper DPS = 6416)

Jade Magistrate Figurine
Upgrade=0: 5793 DPS (Paper DPS = 5957)
Upgrade=1: 6070 DPS (Paper DPS = 6179)
Upgrade=2: 6301 DPS (Paper DPS = 6416)

Zen Alchemist Stone
Upgrade=0: 7093 DPS (Paper DPS = 7121)
Upgrade=1: 7121 DPS (Paper DPS = 7670)

Essence of Terror
Upgrade=0: 7200 DPS (Paper DPS = 7354)
Upgrade=1: 7516 DPS (Paper DPS = 7630)
Upgrade=2: 7690 DPS (Paper DPS = 7923)

Essence of Terror
Upgrade=0: 8163 DPS (Paper DPS = 8299)
Upgrade=1: 8415 DPS (Paper DPS = 8610)
Upgrade=2: 8902 DPS (Paper DPS = 9365)

Essence of Terror
Upgrade=0: 9302 DPS (Paper DPS = 9365)
Upgrade=1: 9689 DPS (Paper DPS = 9719)
Upgrade=2: 9992 DPS (Paper DPS = 10087)

Light of the Cosmos
Upgrade=0: 7189 DPS (Paper DPS = 7621)
Upgrade=1: 7409 DPS (Paper DPS = 7908)
Upgrade=2: 7645 DPS (Paper DPS = 8207)

Light of the Cosmos
Upgrade=0: 7971 DPS (Paper DPS = 8604)
Upgrade=1: 8405 DPS (Paper DPS = 8926)
Upgrade=2: 8700 DPS (Paper DPS = 9267)

Light of the Cosmos
Upgrade=0: 9061 DPS (Paper DPS = 9712)
Upgrade=1: 9563 DPS (Paper DPS = 10079)
Upgrade=2: 9953 DPS (Paper DPS = 10462)

Relic of Yu'lon
Upgrade=0: 8064 DPS (Paper DPS = 7978)
Upgrade=1: 8391 DPS (Paper DPS = 8279)
Upgrade=2: 8635 DPS (Paper DPS = 8591)

Static-Caster's Medallion
Upgrade=0: 6880 DPS (Paper DPS = 6860)
Upgrade=1: 7225 DPS (Paper DPS = 7095)
Upgrade=2: 7613 DPS (Paper DPS = 7398)

RANKING

1) Heroic Essence (upgrade2) = 9992 DPS
2) Heroic Cosmos (upgrade2) = 9953 DPS
3) Heroic Essence (upgrade1) = 9689 DPS
4) Heroic Cosmos (upgrade1) = 9563 DPS
5) Heroic Essence (upgrade0) = 9302 DPS
6) Heroic Cosmos (upgrade0) = 9061 DPS
7) Normal Essence (upgrade2) = 8902 DPS
8) Normal Cosmos (upgrade2) = 8700 DPS
9) Relic of Yu'lon (upgrade2) = 8635 DPS
10) Normal Essence (upgrade1) = 8415 DPS
11) Normal Cosmos (upgrade1) = 8405 DPS
12) Relic of Yu'lon (upgrade1) = 8391 DPS
13) Normal Essence (upgrade0) = 8163 DPS
14) Relic of Yu'lon (upgrade0) = 8064 DPS
15) Normal Cosmos (upgrade0) = 7971 DPS
16) LFR Essence (upgrade2) = 7690 DPS
17) LFR Cosmos (upgrade2) = 7645 DPS
18) Static-Caster's (upgrade2) = 7613 DPS
19) LFR Essence (upgrade1) = 7516 DPS
20) LFR Cosmos (upgrade1) = 7409 DPS
21) Static-Caster's (upgrade1) = 7225 DPS
22) LFR Essence (upgrade0) = 7200 DPS
23) LFR Cosmos (upgrade0) = 7189 DPS
24) Alchemist Stone (upgrade1) = 7121 DPS
25) Alchemist Stone (upgrade0) = 7093 DPS
26) Static-Caster's (upgrade0) = 6880 DPS
27) Blossom/Jade Figurine (upgrade2) = 6301 DPS
28) Blossom/Jade Figurine (upgrade1) = 6070 DPS
29) Blossom/Jade Figurine (upgrade0) = 5793 DPS

To summarize, you really want to hold onto your fully upgraded Relic of Yu'lon until you get Light of the Cosmos and Essence of Terror fully upgraded.  Once you do that, you'll equip Cosmos and Essence and only replace them with the Heroic versions.  The difference in DPS, however, from the Relic to Essence is a paltry 300 DPS, so don't break your back chasing these trinkets.  Is spending 3000 Valor worth the 300 DPS increase to you?  Not likely unless you have nothing else to spend Valor on.  Notice just how awful the Static-Caster's Medallion is...not anywhere close to being worth the 1750 Valor unless you're horribly unlucky and haven't grabbed Cosmos OR Essence.  If you're serious about DPS and your Warlock, grab the Relic of Yu'lon.  This trinket will take good care of you until you get some beastly trinkets.

STAY AWAY FROM: Jade Figurine & Blossom of Eternal Snow.  Static Intellect is nice, but that on-use Crit is just miserable.  A non-upgraded LFR Cosmos or Essence puts the Jade Figurine and Snow to shame.

Most of the dips trinkets seem to only offer Intellect or spell power bonuses via procs while so many of the healer focussed trinkets offer a flat Intellect on equip bonus. The spirit procs are not useful but how do the constant Int bonuses of these trinkets sim? Our DoTs do not update dynamically, correct? To really benefit from these procs, we'd have to refresh our DoTs when they occur, correct?

For example:
Relic of Chi Ji 79330
Thousand-year pickled egg  87573

BTW, thanks for all this work you're doing. It's is my first post since I made an account a while ago since, whenever I have a question, I seem to find a post/article of yours that answers it!

Edited by keefbeef, 21 October 2012 - 04:28 PM.

Analyzing healing trinkets and such isn't necessarily a good use of time.  Why would you want the healing DMF trinket when you can have the amazing caster one?  If you can acquire one, you can get the other, so get the right one.  The 1000 year egg could be used until something better is acquired, but when you look at some of the 463 choices, you see 847 Int with a Crit bonus.  It might be difficult to weigh the difference, but we're really analyzing entry level gear when you should have your sights on the trinket from Elegon and your DMF trinket (shame on you if you didn't get it.)  When Heart of Fear and Terrance open up, your push should be for the Essence of Terror and Light of the Cosmos.

I agree with you where it's shady that healers get all the pure Int + proc trinkets while we get trinkets that proc Intellect...just consider it Blizz's way of allowing healers to focus on keeping people alive without watching for procs.  Their procs just give them more mana anyways.

Did u know something about the Heroic version of Jade Magistrate Figurine ?

JvChequer, on 23 October 2012 - 12:04 PM, said:

It doesn't exist.  Apparently they put in the files a heroic trash drop, but there have NEVER been heroic versions of trash trinkets.  There also hasn't been one equipped on any character across the world as of last night.

Zagam, on 23 October 2012 - 03:12 PM, said:

I wonder why it is in wowhead if it does not exists.

Just to broke my heart probably


PS: Relic Yu'lon it is really better than Normal Essence of Terror ? First time i see someone saying this, why? Since the ICD is kinda big and the proc MAY or MAY NOT help, depends how interact with you haste. I think they are kinda even, probably.

Edited by JvChequer, 24 October 2012 - 04:06 PM.

Hi I notice that this trinket has a 1min cd instead of 120sec as u said, if u dont mind redo the simulation
489 Blossom of Pure Snow = 90467 DPS (+4337 DPS) 16% Uptime, 120 sec CD

Done.  Thanks for catching.

I'm considering replacing Mithril Stopwatch with Ghost Iron Dragonling (hit, haste, mastery).  Thoughts?

http://us.battle.net...Elegua/advanced

Edited by Elegua, 06 November 2012 - 07:27 AM.

Why are you not using the Darkmoon Faire trinket?  Light of the Cosmos + Relic of Yu'lon would make you have one of the best trinket combinations possible throughout this entire tier.  It should be readily accessible for you with some minor effort or gold, whatever you're willing to work at.  Anyone who wants to be better should get this trinket hands down.

If you refuse to heed my advice, I wouldn't replace the Stopwatch with the GID.  Get yourself the Resin Globule or the Predator trinket.  Both are superior and cheap/free/easy to pick up.

hi guys

any thoughts about the numbers regarding the fact that now you can upgrade for example the darkmoon card one ?

br
vlad o/

Edited by vldsb, 27 November 2012 - 11:22 PM.

I think The BIS order is pretty much the same.

Upgrading all trinkets across the board will result in the same proportion.  Note that until you down Sha of Fear and get chances at normal Essence of Terror, your best trinket options are to upgrade Light of the Cosmos to ilvl 497 and Relic of Yu'lon to ilvl 484.  This will make your trinkets very solid until you start knocking down heroic bosses.

uhm bare with me pls :-)

1st choice then would be the improved 484 dmc trinket and the 2nd would be what ? I'm having a hard time choosing between the raw int with the chance to improve it and the light of the cosmos heroic version with the chance to improve it ... i realize raw int isn't everything but was just wondering what to pick up from the math pow and ofc from the ICD pow.

edit: to better explain it, if the 1st bis choice would be the 484 dmc improved x2 what would be the 2nd picked from the 502 light of cosmos which i could improve x2 or the normal version of terror from sha which i could improve x2

thank you
br
vlad o/

Edited by vldsb, 28 November 2012 - 02:35 PM.

Static-Caster's Medallion

Wondering where this fits in.

Gaius, on 29 November 2012 - 08:48 AM, said:

I'll model it when Simcraft adds it to their list.  Just from a paper napkin math model, it has some Haste on it which you would reforge into Mastery and an Intellect on use that lasts for 15 seconds with a 60 second cooldown.  This means it has 25% uptime on a similar proc to Light of the Cosmos and Relic of Yu'lon.  This would be a great pickup if you haven't gotten your Light of the Cosmos yet or skimped out on Relic of Yu'lon (shame on you).  Otherwise, pack your Relic and your Light and upgrade them with Valor if you don't have your Sha-Touched weapon yet.

Zagam, on 29 November 2012 - 02:34 PM, said:

Right now I have the Darkmoon trinket and the LFR Essence of Terror.   If I replace either with the Static-Caster's Medallion I would be able to gain 1155 mastery.   I know the long answer is to Simcraft it, but I'm at work.   Would napkin math dictate to use Static-Caster's Medallion and Essence of Terror?

You won't be replacing your Relic of Yu'lon until you get a Heroic Light of the Cosmos/Essence of Terror.  Static-Caster's Medallion is not better than either of the two I listed, nor is it better than the Relic of Yu'lon.  Intellect > secondary stats always for trinket procs/statics.

Zagam, on 11 December 2012 - 08:54 PM, said:

hey

what would you chose as 2nd trinket beside hc light of cosmos, Relic of Yu'lon or the normal version of essence of terror ? I for one can't decide about this one ... partially because of the big ICD terror has ...

thank you

Edited by vldsb, 13 December 2012 - 09:38 AM.

Relic all the way.  People still undervalue the awesomeness of this trinket.  It has a static Int value (over 1000 upgraded to 484) with a sizeable proc (over 3000) that has a 30-35% uptime.  Unfortunately, it was offered to us as a 476, so it'll get replaced by sheer stats soon, but until you have the Heroic version of Essence, keep your Yu'lon on.