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Feel i underperform a bit (maybe too much)

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Hello my name is Péstenoire and i'm playing Hunter since Pandaria and i went very very good there. But now, as i keep gearing up i feel like i underperform a lot.

I try to take care of the Sniper Training Buff a lot, try to manage my movements etc. but in some fights (like Imperator) i really suck with my DPS.

My Armory: http://eu.battle.net/wow/it/character/pozzo-delleternita/P%C3%A9stenoire/simple

I dunno, i have many logs saved on Warcraft Logs, and excluding many ugly tries i can link something maybe like this one:

Kargath HC: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/1cwvADrkbztHRQ9a/#fight=100&type=damage-done&source=1

Imperator NM: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/1cwvADrkbztHRQ9a/#type=summary&source=1&fight=45

or i don't know if you can check every fight directly on the links above.

EDIT: Just checked the armory isn't completely upgraded. I have Skull of War 2/3 and both rings enchanted with +50 crit.

Edited by Pestenoire

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Hello my name is Péstenoire and i'm playing Hunter since Pandaria and i went very very good there. But now, as i keep gearing up i feel like i underperform a lot.

I try to take care of the Sniper Training Buff a lot, try to manage my movements etc. but in some fights (like Imperator) i really suck with my DPS.

My Armory: http://eu.battle.net/wow/it/character/pozzo-delleternita/P%C3%A9stenoire/simple

I dunno, i have many logs saved on Warcraft Logs, and excluding many ugly tries i can link something maybe like this one:

Kargath HC: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/1cwvADrkbztHRQ9a/#fight=100&type=damage-done&source=1

Imperator NM: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/1cwvADrkbztHRQ9a/#type=summary&source=1&fight=45

or i don't know if you can check every fight directly on the links above.

EDIT: Just checked the armory isn't completely upgraded. I have Skull of War 2/3 and both rings enchanted with +50 crit.

 

My comments on your Imperator log:

 

Chimera: 47 casts out of a possible 68, that is a pretty large gap, definitely lost some DPS here.  I can see gaps in your rotation where you went over 15 seconds without casting Chimera Shot, which is leading to many lost casts by the end of the fight

 

AMoC: 10 casts out of a possible 11, this is good

 

GT: 32 casts out of a possible 42, a bit low, but not terrible

 

Rapid Fire: 4 uses out of a possible 6.  You have a massive gap in the middle of the fight where you didnt use it for 5-6 min.

 

Sniper Training: 60% uptime.  This is a bit low and definitely lost you some DPS.  You started off really well but let it fall off through the end of the fight (I assume as the group started dying?)

Pots: You used your Agi potion pre-pull, but never used a 2nd one

Steady Shot: You had 38 wasted Focus from Steady Shot

Aimed Shot: 57 Aimed Shots in a 10 minute fight seems really low.  Last week I was pulling ~40 in a 5 minute fight.

DPS Timeline:  If you pull up your DPS as a timeline, you can see some fairly large "valleys" where your DPS is absolutely plummeting (below 10K on several occasions).  It looks to me that you are going through some long period of not casting CS and Aimed Shot.  This might be because of mechanics, I'm not sure, but its definitely the main contributor to having lower DPS.

Edited by Atrais

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Looking at your H Kargath kill (single target since you were on the ground):

41/49 uses of Chimaera Shot

You could've stacked your 4th Rapid Fire with your trinket proc.

No second potion - should be used with your second rapid fire.

Try to always double cast kill shot, doesn't look like you missed any though.

22/29 uses of Glaive Toss - not too bad honestly.

Edited by Orthios

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Thanks for the answers guys

Is the use of Chimaera Shot counting when it becomes available? I mean, does it count how much time it stays uncasted and sum them to get how many i wasted?

Anyway for the imperator i still have some problems with the fight mechanics, and there are also some phases where he goes immune and i've got to wait doing nothing for the interphases, so maybe a bit of the "valleys" in the dps line is for that.

So i think i need to improve some stacking (trink procs, pots etc.) and i think i may need some other weak auras to make me sure i don't miss any cast. Any advices for it?

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Is the use of Chimaera Shot counting when it becomes available? I mean, does it count how much time it stays uncasted and sum them to get how many i wasted?

Fight length / CD will give the number of times an ability is available for use.  Then -1 or 2 to adjust for realism and the fact that you aren't always going to be able to use it right on cd.  The logs show how many times you used an ability as well to make for a quick analysis for that ability.

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Thanks for the answers guys

Is the use of Chimaera Shot counting when it becomes available? I mean, does it count how much time it stays uncasted and sum them to get how many i wasted?

Anyway for the imperator i still have some problems with the fight mechanics, and there are also some phases where he goes immune and i've got to wait doing nothing for the interphases, so maybe a bit of the "valleys" in the dps line is for that.

So i think i need to improve some stacking (trink procs, pots etc.) and i think i may need some other weak auras to make me sure i don't miss any cast. Any advices for it?

 

Orthios is right, thats how I calc-ed your CS usage.  I also looked at the Event Log to see the "gaps" in between your CSes and, as I said, saw many with large gaps.  CS is #1 priority and needs to be used on CD to optimize DPS.

 

The "valleys" very well could be unavoidable downtime, just calling them out as I see them so you know what to focus on.  If you can't avoid it, you can't avoid it.

 

I use WeakAuras to track all of my CDs (AMoC, Rapid Fire, Glaive Toss, CS, etc.).  I arrange each CD as a separate icon and pull them next to each other to the left of my character on the screen.  So with one quick glance I can see exactly how long each CD has left.  I also have a glowy screen effect when CS has 1 sec or left on its CD, to ensure I dont miss it.

 

Also, I normally use my 2nd pot right when Rapid Fire and AMoC come off CD ~2 min.

Edited by Atrais

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ok guys, thanks so much for the info, i'll try focus on what you said i was lacking and i'll try to optimize and let you know!

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https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/kQHrWNnb3zjTh8m1/#fight=8&type=damage-done&source=1
just wanted to show this try at butcher HC.

I have to say i didn't have to take care of stacks and i had to just stand in ranged spot.

If i calculated right i only missed 2 chimaera shots and the uptime buffs seemed good to me.

We wiped at 7% of boss' health.

Anyway do you think i could have done better? I don't know if that dps is right for my ilvl in a patchwerk style fight...

Let me know!


EDIT: Sorry for double-posting :/

Edited by Pestenoire

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