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Behind on DPS in HM

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I've been having trouble, particularly on the last 2 bosses of HM keeping above 15000 DPS.  I've noticed this on other fights too.  I'm wondering if there is an issue with how I prioritize my rotation?  

 

The following log is 5 Minutes on a dummy with a Flask, Food and Mastery buff activated:  

 

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/FmMhPLVarkJgQ6KT/#pins=0%24Separate%24%23244F4B%24damage%240%240.0.0.Any%24159703376.0.0.Paladin%24true%240.0.0.Any%24false%240

 

Any suggestions?

 

Thanks,

 

Rongini

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Do you have any logs from those fights? They can tell us 100% more than the Training Dummy due to being able to see movements and cd usage at times and so on.

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Sadly I don't.  I will log the next time I go in.  I prioritize my rotation the same way I do on that log though.  The only difference is movement.  When moving on the imp. I use Long Arm of the Law btw.  I prefer it to Speed of Light, but would SoL be better?  I still feel like that shouldn't account for grave difference in DPS. 

 

Regardless, I feel like I'm underperforming in general compared to the gear I have on.  Simcraft it should do over 20k...I rarely breach that. 

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Here is a Log from Highmaul tonight.  Did a Kargath kill.  I made some mistakes on our first pull, so I threw it away.  Sadly, on our 2nd pull, due to poor positioning I got thrown into the fire and died.  So it's still not an ideal log.  

 

Regardless, when I saw the log just upon death, my DPS said 16K.  Here is the log.  I died around 1:30 as you can see.

 

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/3nKtxmr68faP1hXy#type=damage-done&source=17

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Okay, I have an imperator log.  This is from a wipe.  I know that I didn't get to the adds fast enough on this run, but I don't think that should account for 13k logged dps.  The wipe was caused by a miscommunication (PUG) as to where the melee was moving during Phase 3.  Unfortunately half the raid didn't move either.  This definitely accounts for some of my lost DPS, as I did get out of the way and go to the correct spot.  However, I'm wondering what mistakes I made before phase.  

 

TL;DR Basically while some mistakes happened this run, the dps shown between the beginning of the fight, and before the movement in phase 3 represents how I have been performing.  

 

I'm embarrassed, but this is the only way to help myself.

 

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/6jMAXn48YKRghCmy/#fight=1&type=damage-done&source=12&by=source

 

Thanks,

 

Rongini

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I wouldnt consider myself professional but here are a few things I noticed from your log:

 

1. you are using Final Verdict.    Currently ( pre set bonuses)  empowered seals is out performing Final Verdict. If you are looking for a considerable boost to your damage you should try to see if you can master that. look around for a guide and read up on it.  It isnt the best all the time but on Kargath it definetly can do more dps than FV

 

2. your only consumable buff is food.  Strength flasks and Strength pots arent always cheap but these are great ways to boost your damage.  The basic strength flasks are cheaper than the greater ones if you are looking to save some gold.

Also using a Draenic strength potion during heroism + your cooldowns will make your burn cycle considerably stronger.

you can only use 1 per fight so make sure you use it when you heroism and your cooldowns are up.

 

3. Prepotting will actuallly alow you to use 2 strength potions per fight. so you might want to read up on that and see if its worth it to you.

 

4. I dont see trinket procs in your logs. do you have trinkets with activated cooldowns or passive trinkets. if you have active trinkets be sure to use them with  wings + hero on the pull( looks like your guild heros on pull)

 

hope some of these tips help

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Thanks! Just wrote a long post but it deleted. I will look up prepotting. I do use flasks usually no idea why they didn't show up! I wonder what happened there.

Is emp seals better than sera even?

Thanks for helping out! Anything wrong with the rotation?

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I see why you didn't see the buff. I used my crystal item for +200 Str. Instead of a plus 250 flask. Just trying to save money on early PUG attempts.

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I see why you didn't see the buff. I used my crystal item for +200 Str. Instead of a plus 250 flask. Just trying to save money on early PUG attempts.

 

Pretty sure that crystal is nerfed to 100, even if the tooltip and buff shows 200. Check your stat page when you use it, I dont believe youre getting 200 stats.

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You're right! Forgot about that!

I tried empowered seals haven't mastered it, but I still got very similar numbers.

Sim craft says I should be pulling just over 20k. I have a 630 weapon still, though I'm 646, could this be the problem? Just gear?

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You're right! Forgot about that!

I tried empowered seals haven't mastered it, but I still got very similar numbers.

Sim craft says I should be pulling just over 20k. I have a 630 weapon still, though I'm 646, could this be the problem? Just gear?

I have a very similar iLevel to yours with a 630 weapon and have no trouble on the fights where I stay on the boss doing about 18k while using final verdict. I use holy avenger to have VERY powerful burst phases so that all the timed buffs I can use all line up. This may help you, maybe not. Also just pay very careful attention to your ability priority, it's important to not waste holy power generation by using incorrect ones.

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1. you are using Final Verdict.    Currently ( pre set bonuses)  empowered seals is out performing Final Verdict. If you are looking for a considerable boost to your damage you should try to see if you can master that. look around for a guide and read up on it.  It isnt the best all the time but on Kargath it definetly can do more dps than FV

 

 

This is so beyond wrong...I created an account just to make this comment. ES is only slightly better when you have a PreRaid Weapon. Then it's a toss up between Sera and FV depending on the encounter. Please stop spreading misinformation 

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