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Unholy DPS help

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Hi guys,

 

I'm having a problem with my DPS, I'm probably just being a noob and I know my method of playing isn't all that great but I need some tips and pointers and any help is welcome.

 

Currently I'm getting between 8 and 9k dps with an ilvl of 637 (unfortunately I don't have logs at the moment). I did read through the guide and I'm sort of following it.

 

My current rotation:

1) Defile

2) Icy Touch, Plague Strike and Outbreak (I've created a macro for these three from a previous guide, not sure which one)

3) Plague Strike

4) Scourge Strike

5) Death Coil (I usually let my runic power build up to 60-90% before I start using it)

6) Dark Transformation (whenever it's up)

7) Death Strike (every now and then when my health is too low for my liking)

8) Blood Boil (not very often, only for AoE)

 

I use the Gargoyle sometimes in all types of fights and I cast Army of the Dead just before the boss fight (every boss in raid, only the more challenging ones in dungeons). My minion is always up. I'll also cast Defile again if I'm knocked out of range.

 

Mostly I just keyboard bash Plague Strike and Scourge Strike but I make sure that frost fever and blood plague are always up. 

 

I'll use Remorseless Winter, Icebound Fortitude and Anti-Magic Shell when things start to get a bit hairy.

 

I'm still trying to gear up and I know my stat priority isn't right but any suggestion here? : http://www.askmrrobot.com/wow/player/eu/twilight's_hammer/leathe 

 

Also, I looked at the optimisation and (if I'm reading it correctly) it says I need to increase my mastery, which puts it above multistrike (contradicting the guide here) is this correct? I know I still need to enchant my weapon, I've just forgotten about it.

http://www.askmrrobot.com/wow/optimize/eu/twilight's_hammer/leathe 

 

Please criticize everything, I really need to get this sorted out.

 

Thank you

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1) What macro are you talking about? You shouldn't be using icy touch at all because plague strike applies both diseases and you shouldn't be using plague strike when you have outbreak up. 

 

2) The only time you should let your RP build is just before dark transformation is going to drop off, so you can get 2-3 stacks instantly, any other time you're just going to be wasting gcd's.

 

3) You shouldn't use death strike at all in most situations, it's generally not your job to heal yourself, you should only use it at times when the healers are really struggling and people have to use cd's and it looks like you're actually going to die if you don't.

 

4) Don't use blood boil at all on single target and if it's AoE then you should be spamming it. 

 

5) You shouldn't be spamming plague strike, you should only use it if your diseases drop off for some reason before outbreak is up, AND if it isn't going to cost you a defile or soul reaper as they come off CD.

 

6) Where is soul reaper if your rotation? It does insane damage for the cost, a scourge strike could hit for like 6k while soul reaper hits for 30k for the same cost. It is your #1 priority when the boss is below 45%.

 

7) You say you cast defile again if you're out of range? You should use defile every time it comes off CD as long as the boss is going to stand still for most of it's duration, which is most bosses. You may have to wait to use it in some situations, it's just about knowing what the boss is going to do and when.

 

8) Multistrike is a tiny fraction better than mastery for me atm, but the difference is too small to be relevant, they are practically the same, even so I would gem and enchant multistrike. 

 

9) You haven't enchanted your gear, not even the legendary ring, you should do that because even smalls amounts of a secondary stat make a difference. You haven't put fallen crusader on your weapon either.....?

 

I'm sure there is more issue's but this is all I can see from this post. 

Edited by oBLACKIECHANo

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Thanks, I've adjusted my rotation and I'll test it out.

 

I saw the macro somewhere in a guide and I decided to use it but it seems like it wasn't worth it.

 

I do use Blood Boil for AoE (forgot to add that). I don't think I've ever used it for a single target

 

I never paid much attention to soul reaper, it was just sitting on the bar and I'd use it when all the other cast were on cd.

 

I'd just gotten the weapon and posted this before I went to enchant it, so I was aware of that. As for the other enchants, I know they still need to be done.

 

Even if the boss is above 45% health, should I still focus on using Soul Reaper? If not, what should I be using until the boss gets to 45%? I don't want to end up standing there and just whacking the guy.

 

Also, in the guide, it only gives enchants for a few slots. Should I worry about enchanting the others or just leave them disenchanted?

 

Thanks again.

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Thanks, I've adjusted my rotation and I'll test it out.

 

I saw the macro somewhere in a guide and I decided to use it but it seems like it wasn't worth it.

 

I do use Blood Boil for AoE (forgot to add that). I don't think I've ever used it for a single target

 

I never paid much attention to soul reaper, it was just sitting on the bar and I'd use it when all the other cast were on cd.

 

I'd just gotten the weapon and posted this before I went to enchant it, so I was aware of that. As for the other enchants, I know they still need to be done.

 

Even if the boss is above 45% health, should I still focus on using Soul Reaper? If not, what should I be using until the boss gets to 45%? I don't want to end up standing there and just whacking the guy.

 

Also, in the guide, it only gives enchants for a few slots. Should I worry about enchanting the others or just leave them disenchanted?

 

Thanks again.

Soul Reaper should only be used when the boss is below 45%, or just before he gets there if you know he is going to go below 45% in the next 5 seconds. And you should save a unholy/death rune for it if you won't have another up by the time it comes off CD, which is only 6 seconds that might happen a lot. 

 

Before 45% though you should use your unholy/death runes on scourge strike and defile when it comes off CD. Use your blood/frost runes on festering strike because that converts those runes to more death runes which you then use on scourge strike which converts them back to blood/frost.

 

And I think the guide's enchants show only the slows that can be enchanted with WoD enchants, so just those would be OK. I guess there may be some enchants for other slots but those would be old and give an insignificant amount of stats.

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OK thanks, I'll try that out now.

 

Just a quick update...

My DPS has jumped up to about 18k (max so far: 21k). Still need to get a few enchants done but overall a huge improvement.

 

Thanks again, I really appreciate it!

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