Need Help and advise, Mythic twins - Resto

[Scrubway 0]

Hey Guys

 

FIrst, here is a link to my armory : http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/ravencrest/Scrubway/simple

 

So, we have just started progress in Mythic currently on twins, I am really struggling keeping my numbers up throughout the fight, so much it makes me feel about as usefull as a chocolate teapot.

 

I understand that shamans dont really excel in high movement fights such as this, but I was hoping for a couple of tips or some advise to help me help my guild a have glyphed into spiritwalkers focus to help as much as i can on movement casting, but even so Im still very far behind the other healers. 

 

Not only numbers but the posistioning of myself when the tank takes phemos away for empowered whirlwind, I either seem to be out of range or find myself running towards him at the speed of light and getting cought in the whirlwind.

 

So any advise be it specific to this fight or general tips about mythic it would be greately appriciated!!

[Houselol 0]

I would say that it's highly dependent on the strat you use. For my guild, we all stack for pretty much 95% of the fight, which makes it really easy to get big numbers with healing rain and chain heal. Once you figure out how the fire work you really don't have to move around THAT much. As soon as quake starts I drop HST and HR on the group with a couple RT's on people, caand start to make liberal use of chain heal. I would say high tide is a necessity if you're doing a stacked strat. Another big source of healing is going to be HTT+Asc and SLT. I usually drop HTT+Asc on the large rock that drops on the first Pulverize, as this usually goes into the the second quake and the entire raid is pretty low. 

[Stoove 347]

Hi Scrubway,

 

I'm just about to start progress on M Twins as well, and honestly I don't think it's a fight that RShaman are well suited for unless you have a specific stacking strategy like Houselol mentioned.

 

If you don't find any good ways to spam your efficient AoE, at least try to make sure that those helpful things you can do, you're doing well. By this, I mean of course your cooldowns - if your raid doesn't have a cooldown rotation in place then definitely get one made by your raid or healing lead. You can get Healing Tide Totem used on three Quake phases if your raid leader is clever, and I highly recommend this. In case you need help, I put our planned cooldown rotation in the following spoiler;

 

0:11 Q1 Wings + HTT + Fox + Amp(1)

1:25 P1 Tranq + Fox + Amp(2) + Spirit Shell

1:40 Q2 Wings + Asc + Amp(3) + Devo(1)

2:35 P2 Spirit Shell

3:00 Q3 Wings + HTT + Amp(1)

3:40 P3 Amp(2) + Spirit Shell

4:30 Q4 Wings + Asc + Tranq + Fox + Amp(3)

4:53 P4 Spirit Shell

5:52 Q5 Wings + HTT + Amp(1) + Devo(1)

6:02 P5 Spirit Shell

 

Interrupting Shout - Devo(2)

Enfeebling Roar - Spirit Link Totem, Bubble

 

Required:

1 RSham [sLT, HTT, Asc]

2 HPala [Wings, Devo]

1 RDruid [Tranq]

1 DiscPriest [bubble, PI, Spirit Shell]

1 Hunter [Fox]

3 Mages [Amp]

 

As for moving around the fire, you might find this video helpful.

 

If you can post some logs, that would be extremely helpful as well. Once I get some logs going, we can compare notes. :)

 

Good luck!

[Cheze 6]

The stacking strategy makes it a decent fight for resto shaman, at least in my experience.  It gives you lots of good opportunities to use HR and your cooldowns effectively.  I was fairly regularly #2 on HPS during our progression attempts (behind our filthy disc priest.)

 

If you're not using the stacking strat it's probably a pretty rough fight though

 

ed: also, I think you will find those cooldowns overkill for the first quake; nothing much is going on then so you can pretty easily just heal through it with your regular abilities and perhaps a barrier/SLT.  The rough bits are the times that arcane whirlwind lines up with other mechanics (iirc pulverize 3 and quake 4, but that might be wrong)

Edited January 17, 2015 by Cheze

[Stoove 347]

I think you will find those cooldowns overkill for the first quake; nothing much is going on then so you can pretty easily just heal through it with your regular abilities and perhaps a barrier/SLT.  The rough bits are the times that arcane whirlwind lines up with other mechanics (iirc pulverize 3 and quake 4, but that might be wrong)

 

Quite probably, but I built the rotation by aiming at the P3-Q4 transition which we've been told is one of the most difficult parts of the fight from our perspective. Having that in mind, HTT fits in quite nicely on that Q1 anyway. Since you can, you might as well I guess.

 

It's not clear whether we're using the stacking style strategy yet. Here's hoping we do :P

[Pandacho 286]

I would advice for the stacking strategy on Twins too. It's so much easier to heal.

For talents I tried both High Tide and CBT - didn't do any significant difference. And I plan HTT for quakes too.

The main difference for me in talents in this fight is Ancestral Swiftness instead of EotE. Faster casts and instant HR works for me better here.

[Stoove 347]

So our guild had an off week this week, but I did get to try the stacking strategy out on Twins. I highly recommend it.

[Cantdoit 9]

Just got our first M Twins kill on Wednesday night, here's the log if you're interested at what you could be doing.

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/9BMaWPJZ4rpRC6Ht#fight=11&type=healing

 

Edit: Forgot to mention in our strat we have a ranged/healer and melee stack point, with whirlwind being brought to the center of the room.

Edited January 23, 2015 by Cantdoit

[Amygdalla 4]

As a resto shaman myself, I found this encounter to be extremely difficult. While druids n priest, and pallies hit the high 40-30k range, i stayed at a mediocre 20k trying to run around and survive over standing and healing while my SWG was on CD, and even then I had to pop wolf a couple of times which prevented me from healing during my SWG. It totally wrecked me. People weren't happy with my healing to say the least...kept getting healer tells to bring my healing up....but, I mean...dead shaman is no bueno either. So they "understood". But at least I was one of  the last healers standing at the end of the encounter when we got that achievement 

 

Damn druids and their insta casts lol.

 

All I gotta say is...ghost wolf+ unleash & run.

 

(any of you watch Fairy Tail? I felt like Natsu in Tenrou Island when he had to learn to run from a fight  )

 

But b/c it was our first kill last night, it was tolerable. Now, I gotta work on staying alive & dishing out the heals =/ 

 

Its going to be rough. 

Edited January 23, 2015 by Amygdalla

[Amygdalla 4]

On a more serious note though...Keep your riptides/tidal waves up, healing rain on stacked range designated spot, use unleash elements, elemental blast on CD, chain when possible, and be very crafty with your CDs , using them a few seconds before when the big Pulverize area pops up. make sure youve got your personal CDs to mitigate your own dmg on pulverize as well which will help immensely on staying alive.  there's no time for mana regen bc its pretty hectic and crazy, so unless you find a "safe" few seconds to regen with the focus potion, i advise to use healing tonic instead during one of those pulverizes (mainly 4th or towards the end), it helped me a lot.  I was told to reserve my HTT for 1st empowered ww and 4th, and my SLT for 2nd & 4th pulverize. I used my ascendance to bring people up after pulverizes or during/after quakes...depended on when needed most. Just always make sure that when you see Empowered WW, or ShieldCharge, you have Ghost Wolf binded and immediately pop it and add unleash life spell to get that speed boost and get out of it fast. Also when you have Arcane Volatility our guild runs to the middle of the room or away from other raiders, especially during enfeeble, popping ghost wolf and unleash life is extremely helpful. But you have to be careful during ww you dont run towards the center (if thats where the boss is positioned) bc you'll get caught up in it. 

mmm this is  all i can think of now, the things I did during our successful attempt at killing mythic twins. hope it helps.

Edited January 23, 2015 by Amygdalla

[Stoove 347]

As a resto shaman myself, I found this encounter to be extremely difficult. While druids n priest, and pallies hit the high 40-30k range, i stayed at a mediocre 20k trying to run around and survive over standing and healing while my SWG was on CD, and even then I had to pop wolf a couple of times which prevented me from healing during my SWG. It totally wrecked me. People weren't happy with my healing to say the least...kept getting healer tells to bring my healing up....but, I mean...dead shaman is no bueno either. So they "understood". But at least I was one of  the last healers standing at the end of the encounter when we got that achievement 

 

As a healing lead in my guild, I'd be worried if any of my healers were pming each other saying to "do more healing". If it's putting unnecessary pressure on you and it's not coming from an officer, go to your officers. Sometimes giving constructive criticism isn't as important as giving it at the appropriate time, and if your leaders are worth anything they will understand that.

 

Still, congrats on your kill! I'm glad to see the Shaman section has made a lasting difference to someone who only last tier was coming here for help. I'm glad to see your input coming back to help other people's discussions, so thanks and have some likes! =)

[Amygdalla 4]

Thanks, Stoove! It means a lot! <3