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22 replies to this topic Started by Damien, Nov 13 2012 07:14 PM comments tsulong

Posted 13 November 2012 - 07:14 PM

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This thread is for comments about our Tsulong encounter guide.

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 04:23 AM

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During Night phase Sunbeams will spawn on internal circle of area disregarding to boss position. So it is better to have raid standing spread inside internal circle while tanking boss facing away of that area.

Posted 15 November 2012 - 01:04 PM

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During Night phase Sunbeams will spawn on internal circle of area disregarding to boss position. So it is better to have raid standing spread inside internal circle while tanking boss facing away of that area.


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Posted 20 November 2012 - 05:59 PM

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We found it most useful to assign one healer to focus on dispelling Tsulong (a priest or a shaman that can heal with the dispel) while everyone else dispelled the raid. Healers should also try to figure out how to maximize their healing buffs on Tsulong within 6 second. Do not spam your Flash Heal equivalent because you only get a 25% mana boost each time the breath happens. When you don't have the sun breath buff, try to keep up a single target healing rotation as much as you can. Refresh all your HoT's before the sun breath buff goes away, Monk's Life Cocoon helps a lot with all the hots being put onto the boss as well as a priests Guardian Spirit basically any tank CD that increases healing done, helps immensely.

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 03:39 AM

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Something worth noting, credit to the maintankadin community for the find, and confirmed by my own wologs investigations: Paladin's Lay on Hands does NOT heal the boss. Your ability will go on CD, the boss will gain forbearance, but no actual healing will occur to Tsulong.

Posted 21 November 2012 - 09:33 AM

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We found it most useful to assign one healer to focus on dispelling Tsulong (a priest or a shaman that can heal with the dispel) while everyone else dispelled the raid.

Healers should also try to figure out how to maximize their healing buffs on Tsulong within 6 second. Do not spam your Flash Heal equivalent because you only get a 25% mana boost each time the breath happens. When you don't have the sun breath buff, try to keep up a single target healing rotation as much as you can. Refresh all your HoT's before the sun breath buff goes away,

Monk's Life Cocoon helps a lot with all the hots being put onto the boss as well as a priests Guardian Spirit basically any tank CD that increases healing done, helps immensely.

Something worth noting, credit to the maintankadin community for the find, and confirmed by my own wologs investigations:
Paladin's Lay on Hands does NOT heal the boss. Your ability will go on CD, the boss will gain forbearance, but no actual healing will occur to Tsulong.


Thanks guys, I will incorporate both these things into the guide :) (if you can provide a link to the maintankadin thread/post about the issue, I can reference it)

Posted 21 November 2012 - 12:09 PM

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Here is a proof on the Lay on Hands thing: http://www.worldoflo... "Lay on Hands"

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Posted 22 November 2012 - 02:27 AM

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Hey Vlad,

The thread I was referencing: http://maintankadin....hp?f=48&t=33177
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Posted 22 November 2012 - 05:24 PM

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um, what happens with the Untable Shas that are still up when the transition to night happens? do they still try to reach the boss and 'dmg' him? (actually helping your raid)

Posted 22 November 2012 - 06:34 PM

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um, what happens with the Untable Shas that are still up when the transition to night happens? do they still try to reach the boss and 'dmg' him? (actually helping your raid)


I don't actually know. If someone else does, perhaps they can post. I'll try to see in LFR.

Posted 22 November 2012 - 06:42 PM

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yes the unstable sha's stay alive until they die :)

Posted 22 November 2012 - 09:29 PM

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yes the unstable sha's stay alive until they die Posted Image


But what do they do when reaching the boss in the Night Phase?

Posted 22 November 2012 - 10:15 PM

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But what do they do when reaching the boss in the Night Phase?

guess the opposite off what they do during day. It was in LFR i saw it but they quite of died a 2-3sec after night phase started.

Posted 26 November 2012 - 04:01 AM

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The unstable Sha's will damage the boss in Day, but they WILL heal the boss in night.

Posted 02 December 2012 - 11:28 AM

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Thank you! Adding it to the guide.

Posted 03 December 2012 - 04:48 AM

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Random Holy Paladin tidbits for those interested: 1) Beacon him immediately upon reaching Day Phase. Any EFs you have rolling on the raid will start trickling into him right away. 2) Divine Favor is extremely powerful since it will reduce your Flash of Light to ~1 sec, allowing you to spam the hell out of him during the 6 second breath buff. 3) Combining DF with Avenging Wrath is a nice little boost and you probably wont need it anywhere lse during the fight. 4) Combining GoAK with the other two is also great, though you can really only use it once on the fight so you need to plan it well. 5) Glyph of Flash of light is a nice boost for Tsulong heals. 6) Stay of Execution can be used twice per day phase, nicely aligned with a breath and other CDs, and does a metric f*ckton of healing to him. 7) Pool your HoPo via tower of radiance and HS prior to a breath, and you can: FoS/EF/FoS/EF during the breath, nicely getting the +10% buff from Flash onto your EFs. If you can save an Infusion of Light proc, you can replace one of the FoS with a DL for added sexytimes. 8) The direct heal component of EF will far outheal the HoT component, so I dont believe it's worth it to get a huge breath-boosted EF HoT ticking and then not overwrite it until the next breath. Since you're spamming (more or less) during this phase anyway, you want to make full use of your mana-free heals. 9) Draenai can use their Gift of the Naaru to do a piddly amount of free healing to him for luls. I believe most of what I've stated above is accurate and should provide some pretty straightforward ways to max out your heals during his breaths on Day phases, just based on my own logs investigations of the past couple weeks. Hope it's useful, and if i'm wrong anywhere please dont hesitate to point it out! Cheers,

Posted 04 December 2012 - 08:40 PM

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Can anyone confirm that bubble can remove stacks of shadow breath? Wondering if solo tanking is a possibility.

Posted 06 December 2012 - 04:15 PM

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Bubble doesnt reset EITHER dread shadows or shadow breath stacks. Just had our bear solo tank, he ate the first two breaths. After resetting my stacks, I taunted as a ret pali just before the third breath with unglyphed divine protection. Easy with three healers. Tank retaunted right after and took last/fourth breath. The breath debuff does increase the damage taken from dread shadows, so keep your stacks low. Solo tanking does work.

Edited by Chronos, 06 December 2012 - 04:20 PM.

Posted 06 December 2012 - 05:48 PM

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Bubble doesnt reset EITHER dread shadows or shadow breath stacks. Just had our bear solo tank, he ate the first two breaths. After resetting my stacks, I taunted as a ret pali just before the third breath with unglyphed divine protection. Easy with three healers. Tank retaunted right after and took last/fourth breath. The breath debuff does increase the damage taken from dread shadows, so keep your stacks low. Solo tanking does work.


That's really useful. I will add it to the guide. Thank you!

Posted 12 December 2012 - 12:49 PM

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when switching to day phase he always turns toward the center

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