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This thread is for comments about our Artanis build guide for Heroes of the Storm.

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Hey Srey!

 

First of all, thanks for another guide.

I have two concerns regarding this one, though.

Seasoned Marksman description says: "its bonuses are fully multiplied by Basic Attack-increasing effects such as Secret Weapon..." Did I miss something about Secret Weapon and it increases not only Falstad's basic attacks? Note that this glitch—if it's a glitch—appears for other heroes with Marksman too (say, Raynor). Initially I was sure it's a mistake, but it is so consistently mentioned that I'm baffled. Still I guess it's a copy-paste oversight.

 

Another one is more specific, it's about Solarite Reaper on level 7.

While I tend to agree with incomparable usefulness of recommended Psionic Synergy, I'm not at all satisfied with the reasoning. Yes, the Reaper talent only increases the less effective part of the dash, but it does so by 150%! So if I do 100 on forward dash and 300 on backward dash, it will now make that 250+300, for a total increase from 400 to 550, i. e. 37.5%. That does seem very nice, especially since backward dash is somewhat escapable by the enemy.

I'm not sure how Nova's conditional +20% (on level 1 though) is recommended, and this is not even considered. Or a most recent example: Gall's diminishing 20% is recommended (on the same level 7). What I'm missing here? Is it because they are assassins? Is 37.5% increase indeed too little for level 7?

 

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Seasoned Marksman description says: "its bonuses are fully multiplied by Basic Attack-increasing effects such as Secret Weapon..."

 

 

 

 

 

 

i think on this one you are right, secret weapon, at least in my xp, doesnt apply to other heroes, so probably is a mistake, but i dont fully know about this

 

on the second part, yes that does a lot of damage, but the problem here is that the q doesnt give you invulnerability frames, and is one of the biggest flaws of that one, so landing the full lenght of your q is way to hard tbh unless you are paired with an ETC and he chooses to go with mosh pit, then you can use it but is very specific and a ETC landing a 4-5 man Mosh pit is hard (im telling you by experience)

 

There are two more reasons i think about this:

Another use of the q is to damage running heroes that are trying to get away, and thats another problem, because more than half of the time the return doesnt land

 

Third part is the next, Artanis is a Bruisier, lets be honest, he is in the same spot that Sonya has, that is of the second warrior to get picked in a 2 warrior strategy, If you see the talents recommended for Sonya by icy veins and from TSZuna, you will see a lot of survavility talents taken and a few of damage (i think the only ones recommended are the damage over time from the spear/this getting replaced for the fury heal, focused attack and the ultimate that gives you damage)  The advantage that Sonya has is that her survavility (self heal) can be activated before reaching 50%, Artanis Doesnt have that luxury, so being able to abuse the cd reduccion on his only survavility is way too good (im telling you this because the trait, though is good and can keep artanis Alive for a long time, has the flaw that if you get cc OR focused hard, the damage talents are useless)

 

 

 

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on the second part, yes that does a lot of damage, but the problem here is that the q doesnt give you invulnerability frames, and is one of the biggest flaws of that one, so landing the full lenght of your q is way to hard tbh unless you are paired with an ETC and he chooses to go with mosh pit, then you can use it but is very specific and a ETC landing a 4-5 man Mosh pit is hard (im telling you by experience)

 

There are two more reasons i think about this:
Another use of the q is to damage running heroes that are trying to get away, and thats another problem, because more than half of the time the return doesnt land
 
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Hey Kroshak, thanks for answering!

 

I have to point though that I explicitly agreed with the recommended talent (in a very flowery way, hard to understand, ok smile.png). I'm not at all sure Solarite Reaper should ever be taken over Psionic Synergy.

 

But I have hard time with accepting the explanation given in the guide. It says 'very little additional damage', and that doesn't seem true: first, it's 3/8 more damage, second, it amplifies the forward dash, so since "half of the time the return doesnt land" in practice it is even larger increase.

 

So maybe damage talens are not at all viable for second tanks/bruiser, and that may be a good explanation for not recommending Solarite Reaper. I would probably be ok with that, if that is going to be a consistent advice smile.png

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on the second part, yes that does a lot of damage, but the problem here is that the q doesnt give you invulnerability frames, and is one of the biggest flaws of that one, so landing the full lenght of your q is way to hard tbh unless you are paired with an ETC and he chooses to go with mosh pit, then you can use it but is very specific and a ETC landing a 4-5 man Mosh pit is hard (im telling you by experience)

 

There are two more reasons i think about this:
Another use of the q is to damage running heroes that are trying to get away, and thats another problem, because more than half of the time the return doesnt land
 
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Hey Kroshak, thanks for answering!

 

I have to point though that I explicitly agreed with the recommended talent (in a very flowery way, hard to understand, ok smile.png). I'm not at all sure Solarite Reaper should ever be taken over Psionic Synergy.

 

But I have hard time with accepting the explanation given in the guide. It says 'very little additional damage', and that doesn't seem true: first, it's 3/8 more damage, second, it amplifies the forward dash, so since "half of the time the return doesnt land" in practice it is even larger increase.

 

So maybe damage talens are not at all viable for second tanks/bruiser, and that may be a good explanation for not recommending Solarite Reaper. I would probably be ok with that, if that is going to be a consistent advice smile.png

 

The problem right now, and take in mind this guides are optimized to be strong in the current meta, right now the meta goes with at least 2 warriors in the front line, that is a common thing here and well warriors usually take more resources to bring them down, something you should not do, focusing a warrior is a bad idea unless you can stunlock that one and/or burst him down.

 

Also take in mind the warriors, yes Artanis becames really strong when he drops 50% but thats a double edged sword, because if the enemy pays attention they will focus and take you down, Artanis has the same problem that Thrall, needs to be in constant fight in order to sustain, cc wrecks both of them thats why you see Thrall with the windfury build to sutain more, etc

 

I would only take the damage abilities ones (going straight up damage) if in my team there is another good warrior that can withstand damage on his own and good supports, that the only case scenario ill do it, you could see this scenario but usually Sonya is the one occupying that place

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Hey just a thought.... Under talent build it might be worth specifically noting which heroes are good targets for purifier beam (a) for their slow mobility and (b) to zone them..... Not all will be as familiar with the slower-moving heroes.

-A bit like the list you use to describe abilities that mesh well with Diablo's Apocalypse.

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Got idea down then went to find the specific bit was thinking of that read ages ago.
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Just had an interesting chat after this HL game with the Artanis here as per the picture of talent picks on Braxis map (can post stats if needed).... we were chatting mainly about the L1 pick he made with more of a prism bruiser build (not going Titan Killer later on though).... I think he was right to go that talent, and normally I'd go move as burrowed as Dehaka at L16.

On the Braxis map...
I'm curious about thoughts on any talent build picks for Artanis in two cases, particularly the L1 pick:

Firstly, assuming a double warrior compo of (Artanis/other) vs. a single warrior on this map (guessing probably Johanna or ETC, possibly Mura)...

Secondly, assuming a double warrior compo on both sides.

Finally, more generally... is an Artanis PvE build ever likely to be viable on Braxis? -Guessing only if a double warrior compo or vs. a Gaz/Rexxar.

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On 3/20/2017 at 1:42 PM, Kiarbitrager said:

I'm curious about thoughts on any talent build picks for Artanis in two cases, particularly the L1 pick:

Seasoned is 100% a fair pick as long as you can make use of it. If your team doesn't need the tanky bruiser front line, you can sacrifice it for more damage with picking Seasoned L1. In the case of your screenshot, he 100% made the right pick. When you start encountering double warrior, then you need to start considering your tankier options again, namely Reactive. You can also take Reactive vs 1 tank if the map sucks for farming stacks of Seasoned.

On 3/20/2017 at 1:42 PM, Kiarbitrager said:

Finally, more generally... is an Artanis PvE build ever likely to be viable on Braxis? -Guessing only if a double warrior compo or vs. a Gaz/Rexxar.

Definitely possible, yeah, but you'd have to weigh the pros/cons of dead talents outside of PvE occasions.

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33 minutes ago, FirstBlood said:

Maybe the counters/synergies need an update.  Right now it feels like Arthas is a very strong Artanis counter.

Artanis is able to outlast Arthas thanks to the shields he's able to gain through Shield OverloadShield Overload, which "outvalues" Arthas' Rune TapRune Tap (if taken), and Artanis' other abilities (especially heroic abilities) offer higher damage potential than the ones of Arthas, which results in Artanis being able to outdamage and outlast Arthas.

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On 3/31/2017 at 10:22 PM, positiv2 said:

Artanis is able to outlast Arthas thanks to the shields he's able to gain through Shield OverloadShield Overload, which "outvalues" Arthas' Rune TapRune Tap (if taken), and Artanis' other abilities (especially heroic abilities) offer higher damage potential than the ones of Arthas, which results in Artanis being able to outdamage and outlast Arthas.

In a 1vs1 to the death, sure artanis can win against almost every hero but Arthas does counter Artanis with his E that slows movement and attack speed and with Q it makes it impossible for artanis to escape so you have to watch the map and determine if you wanna trade/fight with an Arthas as to not get picked by his team

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I like Artanis a lot so I'd like to discuss some of his talent picks:

I'm liking Amateur Opponent more and more, it gives so much more versatility, you clear mercenary camps in no time. I started picking it on maps like Garden of Terror, Haunted Mines, Tomb of the Spider Queen. There are many PvE objectives in them. That also means I will pick Triple Strike at level 13.

His 4 and 7 talents Shield Surge and Warp Sickness seem mandatory to me. Its a Lot of defense and utility.

Regarding his Suppresion Pulse, its a good idea to take a look at enemies talents and determine if they are auto attackers or not. I got in a match against Zul'Jin and Falstad and in the loading screen I decided S.P. was the best ultimate but then I saw that Falstad was going Q ability damage build and Zul'jin took Guillotine and some W talents so I went Purifier Beam.

Furthermore, S.P. is kinda weak, the damage is very little. I take it only to counter a specific hero when he uses his auto attack boosts. Like Raynor with his W, Zul'Jin with Taz'Dingo,

His Purifier beam might seem like an easy click-and-forget ability but in order for it to do damage and be effective you have to time it right, when an ally is About to CC an enemy, when You have your E up to slow them, when you put it on a tank that is staying in place, fighting with ur team,etc. I try and always go for the damage with his P.B instead of using it just as a zone away tool.

Graviton Vortex, level 13 seems kinda bad. I picked it only once or twice because the only use I see in it is to do a 5vs5 team fight play by pulling their hyper-carry into your team, cause the enemies will be protecting him with their bodies.

Lastly, at level 20 I never pick Orbital Bombardment or Target Purified, they seem wasteful or too hard to utilise. I pick Force of Will 80% of the time and after that point I look on his Shield Timer, see how much it takes untill in comes back up, it would be inefficient  to use Triple Strike when you have 10 seconds on his shield as Triple Strike takes 18 seconds off, in an instant, coupled with 1 more basic attack you get your shield back up.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Fransoa said:

I'm liking Amateur Opponent more and more, it gives so much more versatility, you clear mercenary camps in no time. I started picking it on maps like Garden of Terror, Haunted Mines, Tomb of the Spider Queen. There are many PvE objectives in them.

Yeah, Amateur OpponentAmateur Opponent is stronger in PvE-oriented maps. I'd say it's pretty much an autopick on Battlefield of Eternity and Infernal Shrines, and a strong consideration on the maps you listed. On the remaining maps, it's quite weak. 

2 hours ago, Fransoa said:

Graviton Vortex, level 13 seems kinda bad. I picked it only once or twice because the only use I see in it is to do a 5vs5 team fight play by pulling their hyper-carry into your team, cause the enemies will be protecting him with their bodies.

If it only caused Phase PrismPhase Prism to damage and pull two targets, it might not be that good. However, it also reduces the cooldown significantly, by 5 seconds, which makes it a good talent. Also, I apologize for an issue with Graviton VortexGraviton Vortex's description - it no longer makes the cooldown of Phase PrismPhase Prism fit the cooldown of Blade DashBlade Dash perfectly. I will make sure to get it fixed. Nonetheless, the 5-second difference is still huge.

2 hours ago, Fransoa said:

Lastly, at level 20 I never pick Orbital Bombardment or Target Purified, they seem wasteful or too hard to utilise.

Target PurifiedTarget Purified is great against team with more squishy targets, but yeah, it's not that great compared to other talents, which is why I would personally move it to Situational tier.

Thanks for the insight!

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I have to say that I think Amateur Opponent is the best talent on that tier and I don't think it's even close.  You will PVE something on every map and if you get Triple Strike @13 it adds even more to it.  I cannot recommend it enough.  Reactive Parry only gives 50% block instead of the upgraded 75%, and it activates on Twin Blades activation.  So if you want to black a Focused Attack (the reason you would be taking block) you have to have a charge ready.  Not a big deal, but if a pick happens and you don't have it up, you either precast Twin Blades (bad idea not using it with auto reset) or you don't get the block on the Focused Attack.  Seasoned Marksman is SM.  Not much to say about it.  You feel like a god when you stack it late game, but Artanis already feels insanely strong late game.  Force of Will @20 insures that.  Also, don't ever try to 1v1 Arthas as Artanis, you're gonna have a bad time.

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On 13. 4. 2017 at 5:15 AM, hammadroppa said:

I have to say that I think Amateur Opponent is the best talent on that tier and I don't think it's even close.  You will PVE something on every map and if you get Triple Strike @13 it adds even more to it.

I think you said exactly why it isn't the best talent - "You will PVE something on every map". While you can PvE a bit on every map, your focus should be on killing the opponent heroes, not their minions. That's why Reactive ParryReactive Parry is stronger on maps where PvE-ing doesn't help you kill the heroes more easily (that is, every map except for Garden of Terror, Battlefield of Eternity, Haunted Mines and Infernal Shrines).

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@positiv2 but AO is a MUST take talent on BoE, GoT, HM and IF..  or did you mean on maps other than those?  The thing is, Reactive Parry should really only be taken to counter specific heroes/talents (Nova, Crit talents like Follow Through) and even then it is weaker in every way than standard block.  Amateur Opponent is the best talent on that tier by a very, very wide margin.  Idk the win rates but I encourage every Artanis player to take it except in niche scenarios.

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5 hours ago, hammadroppa said:

but AO is a MUST take talent on BoE, GoT, HM and IF..  or did you mean on maps other than those?

Yeah, I thought that listing the only maps that make Amateur OpponentAmateur Opponent a great talent would be quite obvious. I'll change the text, then.

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6 hours ago, hammadroppa said:

Okay, understood.  I still think you over value Reactive Parry.  AO is the clear cut better level 1 9/10 times.

Yeah, it's possible that I overvalue Reactive ParryReactive Parry. I just feel it allows me to kill anyone in a 1v1 somewhat safely, and that is the reason why I pick Artanis - to have a strong 1v1 tool. There are some maps that make Amateur OpponentAmateur Opponent the superior talent, but overall I strongly prefer the 1v1 power over jungling power, though I guess there are times when Amateur OpponentAmateur Opponent is better outside of the aforementioned maps. 
HotS Logs show that all three T1 talents have pretty much the same pick rate (31.2% for Seasoned MarksmanSeasoned Marksman, 34.2% for Amateur OpponentAmateur Opponent, and 34.6% for Reactive ParryReactive Parry) for Plat-Master stats. So, I wouldn't say that Amateur OpponentAmateur Opponent is the better pick 9/10 times. Maybe 4/10, depending on the map luck, but not 9/10.

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On 3. 4. 2017 at 4:49 AM, Fransoa said:

His Purifier beam might seem like an easy click-and-forget ability but in order for it to do damage and be effective you have to time it right, when an ally is About to CC an enemy, when You have your E up to slow them, when you put it on a tank that is staying in place, fighting with ur team,etc. I try and always go for the damage with his P.B instead of using it just as a zone away tool.

Graviton Vortex, level 13 seems kinda bad. I picked it only once or twice because the only use I see in it is to do a 5vs5 team fight play by pulling their hyper-carry into your team, cause the enemies will be protecting him with their bodies.

Lastly, at level 20 I never pick Orbital Bombardment or Target Purified, they seem wasteful or too hard to utilise. I pick Force of Will 80% of the time and after that point I look on his Shield Timer, see how much it takes untill in comes back up, it would be inefficient  to use Triple Strike when you have 10 seconds on his shield as Triple Strike takes 18 seconds off, in an instant, coupled with 1 more basic attack you get your shield back up.

That's some really good commentary on usage of his PB.... a lot of people see the obvious rationale for SP ult pick (as counter to key AA heroes), but aside from targeting the lower mobility heroes (e.g. Malf, Jaina) I hadn't thought as much about usage for getting kills rather than zoning. It might be worth incorporating some of this stuff on ult choices and usage next time the guide is updated.

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      General Hero portraits will now be displayed when heroes are inside the following Vehicles, Battleground objectives, or Hero Abilities: Dragon Knight Garden Terror Triglav Protector Anub'arak - Cocoon Lt. Morales – Medivac Dropship Stitches - Gorge Zagara - Devouring Maw Manual Talent Tier and Hero Status Callouts Players can now press ALT + left-click Hero portraits and the Team Level UI at the top of the screen to generate notifications for the following situations: Press ALT + left-click an ally’s Hero portrait to inform teammates when that ally needs assistance. ALT + left-clicking a dead Hero’s portrait will generate a chat message indicating that Hero’s remaining respawn time. ALT + left-clicking an enemy Hero portrait will ping that Hero’s location on the Minimap if they are within allied vision. If that enemy is outside of allied vision, a chat message will inform allies that the Hero is missing. Press ALT + right-click the Team Level UI to indicate when both teams are on even Talent tiers, or when one team has a Talent tier advantage over the other.  
      Heroes
      Assassin

      Nova

      Abilities
      Snipe (Q) Damage reduced from 310 to 255. Baseline quest added: Hitting an enemy Hero increases the damage of Snipe by 5% stacking 5 times. When at max stacks (5) it gains an additional 25% damage. If Snipe fails to hit a target, all stacks are lost. Pinning Shot (W) Damage from 110 to 105 Holo Decoy (E) Added functionality: Decoys now deal 10% of Nova’s damage Permanent Cloak (Trait) Added functionality: Gain 15% movement speed while Stealthed Triple Tap (R) Damage per shot from 338 to 372 (New) Ghost Protocol (1) Activate to instantly cloak, leave a Holo Decoy at your feet, and become unrevealable for .5 seconds. Talents
      Level 1 Advanced Cloaking (Trait) New functionality: Increase your Stealth movement speed by 5%. While Stealthed, gain 2 additional mana regeneration per second. Level 7 Snipe Master (Q) Removed Perfect Shot (Q) Moved from Level 16 Cooldown reduction on Hero hit reduced from 3 to 2 seconds Level 13 Psionic Efficiency (Q) Bonus range increased from 10 to 15% (New Talent) Ionic Force Field (Trait) Gain 25 Armor for 2 seconds after losing stealth Level 16 Lethal Decoy (E) Damage bonus from clones increased from 40 to 50% Level 20 (New Talent) Apollo Suit (Trait) Reduce the cooldown of Permanent Cloak from 3 to 1 second
      Samuro

      Stats
      Basic Attack damage increased from 88 to 110 Abilities
      Mirror Image (Q) Samuro will now appear in the direction of the player’s Mouse Cursor when Mirror Image is cast. Mirror Image damage is no longer a fraction of Samuro’s Attack Damage. Mirror Image base damage has been greatly reduced to 9. Mirror Images are no longer instantly destroyed by Structures Critical Strike (W) Cooldown increased from 8 to 10 seconds Illusion Master (R) New functionality: Reduce the cooldown of Advancing Strikes to 8 seconds Now increases the attack damage of Mirror Images by 100% Now also increases Samuro’s Basic Attack damage by 10% Image Transmission (Trait) Additional functionality: Activate to switch places with the target Mirror Image, removing most negative effects from Samuro and the target Mirror Image. 25-second cooldown. Talents
      Tooltips for various talents have been updated to reflect whether Samuro or his Mirror Images benefit from their effects Level 1 Way of the Wind (E) New Functionality: Gain 40% Movement Speed for 3 seconds upon entering or exiting Stealth by using Wind Walk Way of the Blade (W) No longer grants bonus Critical Strike damage Way of Illusion (Q) Mirror Images no longer benefit from this talent Level 4 One with the Wind (E) Armor gain now also lasts for 3 seconds after being revealed Mirror Images now also gain Armor Armor amount reduced from 60 to 30 Level 7 Phantom Pain (W) Mirror Images no longer benefit from this talent Crushing Blows (W) Mirror Images no longer benefit from this talent Bonus Critical Strike damage has been removed Additional functionality: Samuro’s Basic Attacks against enemy Heroes reduce the cooldown of Critical Strike by 1.5 seconds Level 13 Kawarimi (E) Reduced the time between Samuro issuing a new order after using Wind Walk and the image following it. It should now be harder for the new Image to follow Samuro’s new movements after using Wind Walk. Level 16 Press the Attack (Trait) Attack Speed bonus reduced from 15% to 10% per stack. Maximum bonus decreased from 60% to 40% Harsh Winds (E) Mirror Images no longer benefit from this talent Merciless Strikes (W) Mirror Images no longer benefit from this talent
      Valeera

      Abilities
      Vanish (D) Movement Speed increased from 10% to 20% Ambush (Q) If Valeera is Vanished for 3 seconds, this ability has 5 range and teleports Valeera behind her target. Damage reduced from 180 to 130 Now also reduces enemy Armor by 10 for 4 seconds Cheap Shot (W) Stun duration reduced from 1.25 to .75 seconds Now Blinds the target for 2 seconds after the stun effect ends If Valeera is Vanished for 3 seconds, this ability has 5 range and teleports Valeera behind her target Garrote (E) Silence duration increased from 2.25 to 2.75 seconds If Valeera is Vanished for 3 seconds, this ability has 5 range and teleports Valeera behind her target Talents
      Level 1 Subtlety (D) Adjusted functionality: Now triggers when Valeera teleports to her target with Ambush, Cheap Shot, and Garrote. Energy return reduced from 10 to 8 per second. Crippling Poison (Active) Slow duration reduced from 5 to 4 seconds. Valeera’s poison is no longer removed after the first damaging Ability, but instead is applied by all Valeera's Abilities for 4 seconds. This duration does not start until Valeera damages her first enemy. Level 4 Wound Poison (Active) Healing reduction duration decreased from 5 to 4 seconds Valeera’s poison is no longer removed after the first damaging Ability, but instead is applied by all Valeera's Abilities for 4 seconds. This duration does not start until Valeera damages her first enemy Level 7 Slice and Dice (E) Valeera's Basic Attacks now restore 2 Energy. Level 13 Death from Above (Q) New functionality: Ambush reduces the cooldown of Vanish by 4 seconds. Blind (W) Now increases the duration of Cheap Shot’s Blind from 2 to 4 seconds. Strangle (E) Spell Power reduction increased from 25% to 40% Duration reduced from 7 to 6 seconds Level 16 Assassinate (Q) Bonus damage reduced from 100% to 50% Now also increases the Armor reduction of Ambush by 10 when the target is isolated. Moved from level 7 Expose Armor (E) Removed. Level 20 Nightslayer (D) Removed. Rupture (D) Damage bonus now stacks immediately to 100%, instead of stacking up to 30%. Moved from level 16 Elusiveness (D) Moved from Level 13 Movement Speed bonus increased from 10% to 20% LEVEL (TIER) VALEERA TALENTS 1 (1) (!) Vigor (Passive) Subtlety (D) Combat Readiness (Passive) Crippling Poison (Active) 4 (2) Relentless Strikes (Q) Hemorrhage (E) Initiative (D) Wound Poison (Active) 7 (3) Mutilate (Q) (!) Fatal Finesse (W) Slice and Dice (E)   10 (4) Smoke Bomb (R) Cloak of Shadows (R) — — 13 (5) Death from Above (Q) Blind (W) Strangle (E)   16 (6) Seal Fate (Q) Assassinate (Q) Thistle Tea (Active)   20 (7) Adrenaline Rush (R) Enveloping Shadows (R) Rupture (E) Elusiveness (D) (!) indicates a Questing Talent. Italic text indicates a NEW Talent. Underlined text indicates a MOVED Talent.
      Valla

      Abilities
      Level 1 Monster Hunter (Q) Now tracks stacks instead of damage on the quest tracker
      Zeratul

      Abilities
      Shadow Assault (R) Removed (New Talent) Might of the Nerazim (R) Passive: After using an Ability, Zeratul’s next Basic Attack within 6 seconds deals 40% more damage Activate to duplicate the last ability cast. Damaging abilities deal 50% less damage. This ability does not benefit from talents. 20-Second Cooldown  Talents
      Level 1 Vorpal Blade (1) Added as a baseline ability. Default Hotkey: 1 (New Talent) Move Unseen (Passive) Gain 25% bonus Movement Speed while Stealthed Shadow Hunter (E) Regen Globe required for quest completion reduced from 20 to 15 Mana cost reduction of Blink increased from 2 to 3 Level 4 Combo Slash (Passive) Removed Grim Task (Passive) Removed (New Talent) Psionic Strength (Passive) Damaging an enemy Hero with Basic Attacks or Abilities increases Zeratul's damage by 6% for 3 seconds, stacking up to 5 times. (New Talent) Darkness Descends (Active) Passive: Increase Zeratul’s attack speed by 10%. Activated ability – Zeratul gains 40% bonus attack speed for 5 seconds. 30-second cooldown Level 7 Wormhole (E) Duration increased from 2 to 3 seconds Slip into Shadow (E) Removed (New Talent) Warp Skirmisher (1) Vorpal Blade now has 2 charges. Casting Vorpal Blade also causes Zeratul's next Basic Attack within 6 seconds to deal 30% bonus damage Level 16 Sentenced to Death (W) Bonus damage reduced from 40 to 30% Level 20 Rewind (Active) Removed Nerazim Fury (R) Removed (New Talent) Twilight Falls (R) Activating Might of the Nerazim resets the cooldown of all of Zeratul’s Basic Abilities (New Talent) Shadow Mending (Passive) Zeratul heals himself for 75% of Ability Damage Dealt to enemy Heroes LEVEL (TIER) ZERATUL TALENTS 1 (1) PH PH PH PH 4 (2) PH PH PH PH 7 (3) PH PH PH PH 10 (4) PH PH — — 13 (5) PH PH PH PH 16 (6) PH PH PH PH 20 (7) PH PH PH PH (!) indicates a Questing Talent. Italic text indicates a NEW Talent. Underlined text indicates a MOVED Talent. Specialist

      Abathur

      Abilities
      Spawn Locust (Trait) Health increased from 288 to 316  Talents
      Level 1 Survival Instincts (Trait) Bonus Health decreased from 50% to 40% Level 7 Calldown: MULE (Active) No longer refills Structure ammo
      The Lost Vikings

      Talents
      Level 4 It’s a Sabotage! (Passive) No longer removes Structure ammo Damage increased from 27 to 35 Warrior

      Muradin

      Talents
      Level 4 Sledgehammer (Q) No longer removes Ammo from structures Collection
      Hero Price Reduction
      Artanis’ prices have been reduced to 7,000 Gold and 625 Gems. New Bundles – The following new Bundles and Skin Packs are available for a limited time!
      Hanzo Heroic Bundle Winter Veil 2017 Bundle Winter Veil Classic Bundle New Announcers
      Hanzo New Skins
      Hanzo Kinoko Honzo Sora Hanzo Dragon Hanzo Demon Hanzo Farstrider Hanzo Icebound Farstrider Hanzo Iron Farstrider Hanzo Holy Farstrider Hanzo Scarlet Farstrider Hanzo Genji Storm Oni Genji Golden Genji Nihon Genji Leoric Immortal Space Lord Leoric Lúcio Azure Soundblast Lúcio Lunara Harvest Champion Lunara Zarya Citrine Thunderguard Zarya Industrial Zarya New Mounts
      The following Mounts have been awarded to players who reached Platinum in Hero League or Bronze in Team League during 2017 Ranked Season 3: Titanium Cybersteed Carbon Cybersteed Master Cybersteed The following Mounts have been awarded to players who reached Master or higher in Hero League or Team League during 2017 Ranked Season 3: Epic Titanium Cybersteed Epic Carbon Cybersteed Epic Master Cybersteed Bug Fixes
      General
      Fixed a number of typo and tooltip errors across several aspects of the game. Art
      Kharazim: Kharazim's arms and upper body now animated correctly during his dizzy animation. Leoric: The Shroud of the Dead King Talent will now correctly play an animation and a sound when activated. Samuro: Monkey King Samuro’s model will no longer exhibit flickering during Hero Select while running Medium or High graphic settings. The Lost Vikings: Fixed an issue causing Baelog to cast superfluous shadows on the terrain. Battlegrounds
      Sky Temple: Fixed an issue that could prevent Temple lasers from appearing correctly on the Minimap. Structures: Auriel's Blinding Flash and Artanis' Suppression Pulse can no longer Blind Structures. Towers of Doom: The Headless Horseman Boss is no longer incorrectly categorized as a Monster. Volskaya Foundry: Fixed an issue in which Heroes on the outer edge of the Hall of Storms would not receive Healing or protection. Heroes, Abilities, and Talents
      Alexstrasza: Life-Binder is no longer interrupted when entering or exiting Dragonqueen. Diablo: Fixed an issue that could cause Shadow Charge to deal its collision damage multiple times under certain circumstances. Garrosh: Casting Wrecking Ball on Mercenaries will no longer cause them to leash while in combat. Gul'dan: Movement caused by a conveyor belt will no longer cancel Rain of Destruction channeling. Kel'thuzad: The Power of Icecrown Talent will now correctly grant bonus Spell Power for enemy Heroes Slowed by Chains of Kel’Thuzad with the Chains of Ice Talent. Li-Ming: Zei's Vengeance and Arcane Orb tooltips have been updated to clarify bonus damage functionality. Damage amounts have not been changed. Lt. Morales: The Second Opinion Talent will now correctly grant cooldown reduction when one of the Heroes struck by Displacement Grenade is piloting a Vehicle, like the Garden Terror. Lunara: Fixed an inconsistency that allowed Lunara to cast Leaping Strike over some, but not all, allied units after learning Boundless Stride. Medivh: Creating a Portal entrance after learning Portal Mastery and then entering the Triglav Protector will no longer prevent him from using the Protector’s abilities. Muradin: Learning Reverberation no longer incorrectly updates the Attack Speed Slow amount in Thunder Clap’s tooltip. Murky: Spawn Egg with the Egg Hunt Talent can now be cast correctly on Volskaya Foundry’s conveyor belts. User Interface
      Death Recap: Fortification Camp Turret attacks now display a Turret icon in the Death Recap screen.
    • By Stan

      The free Hero rotation has been updated for the week of November 21 and Junkrat's available for the first time!
      Free-to-Play Hero Rotation: November 21, 2017
      Li Li ETC Zagara Butcher Kael'thas Artanis Rehgar Tyrael Azmodan Garrosh Alarak (Slot unlocked at Player Level 5) Tracer (Slot unlocked at Player Level 10) Valeera (Slot unlocked at Player Level 15) Junkrat (Slot unlocked at Player Level 20) (Source)
    • By Oxygen

      Our thirteenth Heroes of the Storm Meta Tier list for the Alexstrasza patch of November is here!
      We present our thirteenth Heroes of the Storm Meta Tier List for the Alexstrasza patch of November 2017.
      Welcome to Icy Veins's Meta Tier List for the Alexstrasza patch. The goal if of this list is to try and detail game's current metagame state. The prime goal of such lists is to inform players regarding popular and trending team composition drafting strategies (i.e. the drafting metagame). Although tier listings are generally the product of balance, many factors come into play when discussing the relative perceived strengths of heroes, including player regions, maps, play style, skill level, and, of course, personal perception. As such, any tier list—including this very one—should never be interpreted as gospel, but rather, as a guide to better grasp what to expect with regards to typical drafting experiences. One useful application of such lists is to allow you know which heroes to look out for in terms of practice and counterplay, ultimately improving your knowledge of the game.
      Using the list
      As stated above, tier lists are easy to mistake for gospel. As new strategies are discovered and experimented with, so changes the perception of the relative strengths of each hero. Tier lists still prove to be useful as a snapshot of player expectations in terms of drafting. Although it is generally considered preferable to focus on high tier heroes (Prime and Core tiers), it is important to note that Heroes of the Storm's wild character and map designs make it so that any given hero's tier position is prone to fluctuate depending on the situation at hand.
      One classic example of such is that of Kerrigan on the Infernal Shrines map. Although we currently judge her to be a low-to-mid-tier hero, her drafting priority shoots up to first-pick or first-ban material on this specific map due to the nature of its objective. Certain heroes also synergise so well with each other that the sole fact of having the opportunity of drafting them together is generally enough to increase their potential. Tassadar and Tracer, for instance, are generally nightmarish to deal with for many. There are too many examples of these interactions to reasonably produce here, but we invite you to consult our guides to know exactly where and when each hero shines. The guides have been linked in the lists below for your convenience - just click any of the hero names to access them.
      A ↑ next to a hero's name means its tier list position has increased since the previous month whereas a ↓ means just the opposite. Additionally, a + or - sign indicates short-to-medium term predictions (which is to say, about a month) for tier increase(s) or decrease(s), respectively. These are often updated after significant balance patches and/or when clear trends are emerging.
      If you're newer to the game, also consider visiting our glossary for a comprehensive list of discrete Heroes of the Storm terms.
      Current map rotation
       
      Prime Tier
      Warrior Assassin Support Specialist Arthas Genji - - E.T.C. Greymane     Garrosh Malthael     Prime tier heroes are considered to be extremely strong in all situations, and show no obvious weakness. They are very often banned or picked right away, as they generally dictate the pace of most matches.
       
       
      Core Tier
      Warrior Assassin Support Specialist Anub'arak↓ Falstad Brightwing Azmodan Dehaka Kerrigan↑ Lúcio+ Nazeebo↓ Diablo Li-Ming Rehgar↑ Sylvanas- Sonya+ Valla Tassadar↓-   Stitches Zeratul     Varian (Tank) Zul'jin↑     Core tier heroes are strong in a wide variety of situations and have few counter-picking possibility. They should form the core of your team, and be picked after Prime Tier heroes have been distributed.
       
      Viable Tier
      Warrior Assassin Support Specialist Artanis Alarak Ana Abathur D.Va Cassia Auriel Murky Johanna Chromie Kharazim Probius Leoric Gul'dan Li Li Zagara Muradin+ Illidan Lt. Morales↓ Xul↓- Zarya Kael'thas Malfurion↓     Kel'Thuzad Stukov↓     Jaina↓ Tyrande     Lunara Uther↓     Ragnaros       Samuro↑       The Butcher       Tracer     Viable tier heroes are generally well-rounded that have either fallen out of favour, or, inversely, are on the rise in popularity, due to the current Prime tier contenders.
       
      Niche Tier
      Warrior Assassin Support Specialist Chen Cho'gall Alexstrasza (new)- Gazlowe Cho'gall Junkrat   Medivh Rexxar Nova   Sgt. Hammer Tyrael Raynor       Thrall       Tychus       Valeera       Varian (Damage)     Niche tier heroes have niche application on certain maps or for certain team compositions. They are generally picked to "round out" your team composition when your team composition is missing out on key components, such as a "jungler" (mercenary camps), a solo laner, or solid waveclear.
       
      Bottom Tier
      The Lost Vikings Bottom tier Heroes are deemed to be either considerably weaker than the majority of other Heroes, or much more challenging to play properly. Although they may situationally shine, these Heroes are generally avoided by most players.
       
      Metagame assessment
      Alexstrasza. She didn't feel great at all back at BlizzCon, and the following PTR saw no changes to her. I expected poor performance, but nothing quite as low as 41%. Where do I even begin? Dragonqueen is obviously powerful, but is gated behind a ridiculously long cooldown. Outside of Dragonqueen, she's just... really weak. I don't quite understand the concept behind Gift of Life, but it screams double healer to me, which is unfortunate for multiple reasons I won't elaborate on. Abundance heals for too little for how difficult it is to use, on top of putting a big obvious marks on where to shoot. I'm putting her as Niche(-) for now because I suspect most players don't play her all too well, but she's in dire need of buffs, and that was quite obvious 2 weeks ago.
      Anub'arak is losing some of his former popularity, though no nerfs were had for a few months. Although I can't explain exactly why, I suspect that tanks with more raw survivability and a bit more sustained damage potential are currently being prioritized. He's still not bad at all, especially with Cocoon to counter Genji's Dragonblade and Malthael's Tormented Souls. Give Locust Swarm a try if there are no valuable heroic abilities for you to lock down.
      Kerrigan has emerged as this month (and last month's) sleeper for ripping hero league wins away, and I suspect my shedding some light over her success may frustrate those whom have been exploiting her relative unpopularity to . Why is she doing so well, though? Assimilation's design makes it particularly difficult for double support teams to take her out. In essence, this trait gains more value the longer Kerrigan survives, which then translates into more damage, which then translates into more survivability... and so on.
      Zul'jin's most recent rework was certainly one of the most successful reworks to date. Although he wasn't bad to begin with, most of the changes ended up being buffs, contrary to what some players were claiming. To add to this, the meta is quite favourable to him; stacking up on Berserker (and keeping its effect active for the damage bonus) is pretty safe with more than one healer around. His trait also tends to favour longer fights, due to the stacking mechanic, allowing him to snowball. Guillotine is even starting to see more play, with Taz'dingo! feeling less and less necessary to deal with burst.
      Rehgar's changes, which I had mistakenly labeled as nerfs, ended up being positive. Turns out, area of effect healing is trendy. Now, why might Rehgar be doing so well? Simply put, versatility. With healers becoming more and more (over)specialized, this is certainly a respectable thing to have. He brings bits of waveclear, mercenary clearing, dueling, and of course, healing to the table. Lightning Bond is great for single-target damage as well, making Rehgar particularly strong on Battlefield of Eternity, and just as a general single-target damage dealer.
      Tassadar is also falling off quite dramatically. I think I may have overestimated just how unpopular he was in last month's list, but today's values are quite clear. As with Anub'arak, I'm not quite sure what happened, but most of the common Tassadar tag teams (besides Tracer, but she's a strange case) are below 50% winrate. Since the viability of such edge support heroes depend on the strength of what they support, I suppose we shouldn't be all that surprised for this. Force Wall could probably surprise quite a few opponents, as it is strangely unpopular nowadays.
      Nazeebo's October nerfs have struck home, although the current metagame state isn't helping either; chip damage isn't all that effective when it simply gets healed off. He still remains strong if you plan on taking it to the late game, but is nowhere near to being first-pick worthy.
      Samuro has always been in a strange place. Though the upcoming stealth changes are going to be extremely positive for him (BlizzCon spoilers!), I feel like his ability to split push, deal with mercenary camps extremely quickly, and single-out healers (or, anyone isolated, really) make him a sleeper. He's at his worse when Mirror Image get taken out quickly, but none of the top tier contenders are particularly heavy on area of effect damage. His winrate is currently the highest of the entire cast, yet his popularity is in the bottom 20. I suppose he requires quite a bit of decision making skills to make good use of. He's not all that flashy either, which may be contributing to his lack of popularity. Give him a try.
      Jaina is doing well, though feels a bit out of meta right now, as with most other casters. I suspect that nerfs to any of the Prime tier heroes will see her surge right back up. Generally seen as a 4th or 5th pick.
      Lt. Morales, Malfurion, Stukov, and Uther all feel extremely balanced right now, each hovering between healthy 49 and 50% winrates. They all have their niches (Morales on Braxis, for instance), and are generally picked as second healers when the Core tier contenders have been distributed.
      Xul, whom I may have overhyped recently, lost Blackheart's Bay and Garden of Terror, some of his favourite maps. To add to this, the tanks who tend to punish him the most are right at the top of the food chain. This is on top of August's pretty heavy-handed nerfs. Just to add insult to injury, he's just not all that great against double support either. Xul is now part of the bottom 10 and will probably stay there for a while.
    • By Damien
      This thread is for comments about our Toxin Cards guide.
    • By Damien
      This thread is for comments about our Tyrande build guide for Heroes of the Storm.