Jump to content
FORUMS
Sign in to follow this  
Damien

Legendary Fast Freeze Mage Standard

Recommended Posts

If Freeze Mage is so reliant on an OTK against N'Zoth Paladin, would that make Kobold Geomancer a tech card for this matchup? :)

 

Also, seems Alexstrasza is at her worst here. Once you have the Paladin at 25 health, playing Alexstrasza is actually counterproductive, as the Paladin will probably heal up all the way to 30 while peace keepering her, so you have to start from scratch ...

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
On 5/19/2016 at 9:14 AM, Kobal said:

If Freeze Mage is so reliant on an OTK against N'Zoth Paladin, would that make Kobold Geomancer a tech card for this matchup? :)

 

Also, seems Alexstrasza is at her worst here. Once you have the Paladin at 25 health, playing Alexstrasza is actually counterproductive, as the Paladin will probably heal up all the way to 30 while peace keepering her, so you have to start from scratch ...

That is true, but even then alexing your opponent is usually a good thing. You either just win the game if he doesn't have healing in hand, or you force him to spend a turn removing alex and healing, which is one turn he's not developing minions(including rag) to kill you. It's still a very situational proposition though, and there are obviously exceptions to the rule. For example, if you somehow manage to get emperor to stick for one turn after the first proc with alex in hand, you may create an alternative otk situation such as alex+fireball+frostbolt+lance. This will obviously not happen very often, since the paladin has plenty of ways to kill emperor, but is always something to take into account.

As sottle says, HS is not a linear game. You should adapt gameplay to the individual game you are playing and the current situation, and if that sometimes means abandoning the general gameplan you usually follow for the match up you are playing, so be it.

Edited by batanete

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I'm surprised Freeze haven't got the update it had and the attention it deserves. 

The current metagamed list differs from the guide by -1 Cone of Cold, -1 Pyroblast, +1 Flamestrike, + 1 Evolved Kobold.

A lot of players ran double Ice Barrier before, but 8 armor is not really as great as it sounds. It either ended up being not so good because your opponent wasn't really pressuring you that much, or it wasn't so good because your opponent is pressuring you so much you are dead unless your freeze them, regardless of the 8 health swing. It can be cut to 1-of.

Pyroblast is just a card that's not easy to use efficiently. Personally, I find it way too mana hungry - during 2-3 turn lethal setups it just takes too long to fit it. It also is impossible to use at the same turn with a defensive card like Ice Block

Now, Flamestrike is something that came in and out, and it's not really clear on how good it is, because on the one hand, it clears the board and buys you turns in more of a long-term sense, but at the same time it's less reliable than the actual freeze effects. Numbers wise, 4-damage is well positioned at the moment.

And the most spicy tech that's actually quite old is the Kobold Geomancer Senior. This guy functions like an additional Fireball if you combo him with 3 other spells, like Frostbolt - Lance - Lance. Evolved Kobold dies approximately 99.9% of time, but I'd call a Fireball effect for a price of Fireball a good deal. And he can be even better if you get a good Thaurissan. 

All things together, Freeze Mage is actually slightly more consistent right now and has more damage potential thanks to Kobold, who lets you get away with scenarios old versions couldn't. This is huge considering the fact Freeze is technically the only deck favored against Midrange Shaman - an outrageously popular choice - while being at least decent against a lot of other decks, like Rogue, Warlocks and quite often even Druid. Warrior is a huge problem, and he is sort of on a raise, same goes for Hunter and Tempo Mage but I think the trade-off is worth it. I should also note I have a 100% winrate against Control Warrior this season (3\3)(no proofs)(Kappa). 

If you want to play the deck, it's now, or it's going to be never very soon.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Sign in to follow this  

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.

  • Similar Content

    • By Tomseno
      Raid/Class Spots Are Open To Any Applicant If The Player Is The Right Fit
      A guild formed with an ambition for progression and a love for M+ we decided to make the move from Silvermoon Alliance and form a guild to take our focus to the next level, Cutting Edge in 10.1 being the next step.
      We believe in building a guild by recruit players of a similar goal and mentality whether it be for raiding or for push score in Mythic plus. We value loyalty, honesty and a positive attitude towards setbacks. Communication skills are an absolute must.
      Raid Schedule
      Wednesday 20:30-23:00 Sunday 20:30-23:00
      Current Progression
      9/9HC 5/9M
      What are we looking for recruitment wise?
      We're currently open to recruiting DPS classes listed above, as we aim to solidify a stable 25-player roster. We're looking to provide competition to existing members and choose the best 25 players to proceed with for next tier.
      Contact Information:
      Discord; tomsen and lora1506
      Think you'd be a good fit?
      If you believe that you are a player that is looking to achieve the same goals as us then why not contact us and see if we can achieve our goals together!
    • By positiv2
      This thread is for comments about our Outlaw Rogue Leveling Guide.
    • By positiv2
      This thread is for comments about our Shadow Priest Leveling Guide.
    • By Aerlon
      Hello everyone,
      Last patch gave us 40% and 10% damage increase on ray of frost and glacial spike
      Does anyone know of these changes make them relevant ?
      Should frost mage play with these or one of these now ?
    • By positiv2
      This thread is for comments about our Vengeance Demon Hunter Leveling Guide.
×
×
  • Create New...