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Chrono Shard should be positioned higher now due to change to stats priority for Outlaw.

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10 hours ago, Guest rogues do it from be said:

Chrono Shard should be positioned higher now due to change to stats priority for Outlaw.

The guides are currently being updated, and trinkets will move around as a result

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On 28/03/2017 at 8:22 AM, Blainie said:

We are currently in the process of updating our guides in preparation for the release of 7.2 - please understand that we will not be answering questions in this section about "What is better for 7.2?" prior to the patch release, since all the information will be available when the patch goes live. Please be patient and thanks for waiting!

"2.2.1. Pro Tip: How to Roll the Bones" So no more any-two-buffs-are-best, or am I missing something?

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8 hours ago, Guest Sue said:

"2.2.1. Pro Tip: How to Roll the Bones" So no more any-two-buffs-are-best, or am I missing something?

Correct, they changed the buffs that you get, which basically means that short of rerolling Grand Melee it's best to keep whatever you get.

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22 hours ago, Carrn said:

Correct, they changed the buffs that you get, which basically means that short of rerolling Grand Melee it's best to keep whatever you get.

Fantastic! I'll have to mess with IceHud. Outlaw just got a little less tedious :)

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Guest Buster

When will the bis gear/trinket lists be published? takes quiete it's time

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Guest dragonzero

who is the best stat for SnD spec in 7.2.5??? 

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On 25/06/2017 at 2:41 PM, Guest Buster said:

When will the bis gear/trinket lists be published? takes quiete it's time

Bit late, but it is up in case you were wondering :) Sorry for the delay on it!

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On 27/06/2017 at 5:14 AM, Guest dragonzero said:

who is the best stat for SnD spec in 7.2.5??? 

No change in prio.

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On 30/06/2017 at 1:04 PM, ddkil said:

Sorry,but am I blind or I dont see stat weights on the stat page?

I believe these were taken down by Furty and replaced with a link to Shadowcraft which can help with optimizing gear. You can also try using SimCraft to find exact weights.

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14 hours ago, Blainie said:

I believe these were taken down by Furty and replaced with a link to Shadowcraft which can help with optimizing gear. You can also try using SimCraft to find exact weights.

Yeah,ive simcrafted all my gear compositions and in all cases haste showed a bit more beneficial than vers (just for a small margin, even less than 1 I believe) .So i guess haste is more of a priority after this patch for outlaws. 

And of course both haste and vers are quite supperior to  crit and mastery. Due to this I still cant replace my 890 haste/vers ring with anything else cuz its just outdamaging any other 900+ rings withous one of these stats acording to pawn lol

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On 13/07/2017 at 11:25 AM, ddkil said:

Yeah,ive simcrafted all my gear compositions and in all cases haste showed a bit more beneficial than vers (just for a small margin, even less than 1 I believe) .So i guess haste is more of a priority after this patch for outlaws. 

And of course both haste and vers are quite supperior to  crit and mastery. Due to this I still cant replace my 890 haste/vers ring with anything else cuz its just outdamaging any other 900+ rings withous one of these stats acording to pawn lol

This happens a lot with rings due to the lack of the main stat on them. It basically just means the item level upgrades are normally worthless unless your stat weights are very close or it's a HUGE upgrade.

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Does the rule "always pick up a higher ilvl relic" still apply?

I have one slot with 900 faith's thirst relic and 905 with blade dancer relic and I am pretty sure 900 relic is better,right? cuz blade dancer is basically worth nothing.

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7 hours ago, ddkil said:

Does the rule "always pick up a higher ilvl relic" still apply?

I have one slot with 900 faith's thirst relic and 905 with blade dancer relic and I am pretty sure 900 relic is better,right? cuz blade dancer is basically worth nothing.

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Guest Fletch

Is sephuz' secret any use for outlaw rogues now, in case it can be triggered? Or is the window of burst haste not that good?

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On 27/07/2017 at 5:19 AM, Guest Fletch said:

Is sephuz' secret any use for outlaw rogues now, in case it can be triggered? Or is the window of burst haste not that good?

If you can reliably proc it, it's ok. Don't delete it or anything, but there are better legendaries available. 

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Seems like Outlaw getting another bit of love in 7.3 with flat out percentage increase alongside with 21t set bonus hopeffuly we  will be able to escape the  deepest bottom of dps's LUL

And btw, is Furty alive?I havent seen him streaming or posting something in ages

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On 8/7/2017 at 5:38 PM, ddkil said:

Seems like Outlaw getting another bit of love in 7.3 with flat out percentage increase alongside with 21t set bonus hopeffuly we  will be able to escape the  deepest bottom of dps's LUL

And btw, is Furty alive?I havent seen him streaming or posting something in ages

He's still here! He's working hard to update everything that needs to be done for 7.3 :D

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We are currently in the process of updating all guides as required for the 7.3 release. Please be patient as we make the necessary changes. You can keep an eye on the changelog to know if the guide has been updated or not. 

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This guide has now been updated for the 7.3 patch. If you have any questions or comments, you can always ask them here. If you find any errors in the new changes to the guide, let me know and I'll get the writers to update it ASAP.

Good luck in the Shadows of Argus!

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1 hour ago, ddkil said:

Is outlaw at least comparable with sub now after recent buff or still garbage lol?

Unless you intend to raid at the absolute highest levels, all of the specs are fine and you should play whichever you enjoy most and perform the best on. There's no point on playing Sub instead of Outlaw if you're so focused on trying to line your rotation up that you stand in something and die every fight.

Underplayed specs such as Outlaw suffer from a few things which have a pretty drastic influence on their 'performance' on WarcraftLogs, such as that when most of the people who are the most talented raiders are playing Sub, Outlaw will look worse because only the weaker players are playing it

Sub is capable of doing more damage, but Outlaw isn't too far behind and is significantly easier to play. Again, pick which spec you like and perform best on, and play that

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5 hours ago, Carrn said:

Sub is capable of doing more damage, but Outlaw isn't too far behind and is significantly easier to play. Again, pick which spec you like and perform best on, and play that

I was playing outlaw throughout entire expansion until 7.2.5 where I switched to sub.And to be honest ive been enjoying it much more than outlaw and i was capable of doing so much more damage with it even with 885 relics whereas i had like 900-915 as outlaw.

Since then my sub has become significantly more bigger that outlaw and I was just curious if new T21 bonuses combined with buffs could make outlaw fun again because sub's T21 looks kinda meeh

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4 hours ago, ddkil said:

I was playing outlaw throughout entire expansion until 7.2.5 where I switched to sub.And to be honest ive been enjoying it much more than outlaw and i was capable of doing so much more damage with it even with 885 relics whereas i had like 900-915 as outlaw.

Since then my sub has become significantly more bigger that outlaw and I was just curious if new T21 bonuses combined with buffs could make outlaw fun again because sub's T21 looks kinda meeh

I'm not sure we'll know until we see the final, finished version released onto live. You never know what might happen on the PTRs!

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