Arms Warrior 7.3

[Guest Charse]

Just as a note, Kil'jaeden's burning wish is affected by Colossus Smash, and Therefore Warbreaker as well. Makes for a rather massive AoE that currently on my warrior bumps it from 860K to 1.4mil to each enemy. I haven't been able to see whether it adds onto Corrupted Blood of Zakajz yet though.

[Kaelath 0]

On 2/27/2017 at 3:23 PM, Guest Charse said:

Just as a note, Kil'jaeden's burning wish is affected by Colossus Smash, and Therefore Warbreaker as well. Makes for a rather massive AoE that currently on my warrior bumps it from 860K to 1.4mil to each enemy. I haven't been able to see whether it adds onto Corrupted Blood of Zakajz yet though.

 all damage you produce has a chance to trigger CBZ and Kil'jaedens is so god damn stupid outside raid i can't properly test it BECAUSE IT KEEPS ONE SHOT KILLING MOB PACKS

 

Also I ran 12 simc runs last night using my 840ilvl LFR warforged Spontaneous Appendages and it keeps beating every other trinket but kil'jaeden and Gul'dans trinket an ilvl840 is literally better than mythic grade nighthold trinkets this is retarded I thought they nerfed it this patch.

Edited March 17, 2017 by Kaelath

[Valks 2,373]

Just a note from Wordup on the KBW trinket that came from the Fury thread:

• There are modifiers that can increase the KBW proc, including CD% modifiers from artifact traits etc.
• These are all included in SimC testing already, so it won't affect the rankings if you do find other modifiers that you feel are increasing your KBW damage.

Hope this helps.

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2 hours ago, Kaelath said:

Also I ran 12 simc runs last night using my 840ilvl LFR warforged Spontaneous Appendages and it keeps beating every other trinket but kil'jaeden and Gul'dans trinket an ilvl840 is literally better than mythic grade nighthold trinkets this is retarded I thought they nerfed it this patch.

Can you show me one of the sim tests you did? There are definitely some trinkets that will beat the 840 SA just because of the item level difference. Draught should destroy SA, for example.

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19 hours ago, Blainie said:

Can you show me one of the sim tests you did? There are definitely some trinkets that will beat the 840 SA just because of the item level difference. Draught should destroy SA, for example.

Draught utterly fucking destroys everything in the meters it's why i threw out my spontanious and i'm blowing tokens on gul'dan every week for Draught of souls. And I had to stop running simc because my pc isn't playing ball and crashing locking up every time I start doing a sim now =\

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On 3/18/2017 at 4:50 AM, Kaelath said:

Draught utterly fucking destroys everything in the meters it's why i threw out my spontanious and i'm blowing tokens on gul'dan every week for Draught of souls. And I had to stop running simc because my pc isn't playing ball and crashing locking up every time I start doing a sim now =\

No problem, I'm guessing you probably ended up finding the solution to your issue just through general play testing?

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[Kaelath 0]

 Kil'jaeden's Burning Wish is an insanely powerful stat stick trinket with an equally powerful on use effect that deals AoE damage on a 1.15-minute cooldown.

 

Fixed it since it does scale with all warrior buffs if using Furious build with Avatar and you pop all cooldowns with warbreaker on a pack of enemies you'll have over 2 million damage per mob, it's quite the silly little trinket and it's been doing extremely well for me in mythics open world and LFR as all 3 specs, the strongest it hits is most definately arms spec which every 1.5min I can make it hit for 1.5 million damage with no cooldowns spent and as fury i land 1.3 million damage per cast outside of cooldown blowing phases.

Prot spec it averages 850k regardless of what you do but it's burst is pretty silly when you're the tank and doing more dps in mythic+ runs and LFR than all the other DPS players.

Edited March 29, 2017 by Kaelath

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5 hours ago, Kaelath said:

Fixed it since it does scale with all warrior buffs

I've passed this on, thanks! :)

[Bacchanal 0]

On 7/25/2016 at 9:48 AM, Lydianite said:

I can't find bladestorm as an arms option ??? oh,ravager replace,all good

I think the guide needs to be updated.
Bladestorm isn't available to Arms.

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22 hours ago, Bacchanal said:

I think the guide needs to be updated.
Bladestorm isn't available to Arms.

It is, just checked on my Warrior.

[Kaelath 0]

Bladestorm is one of our main abilities for arms, Fury warriors only get it if they talent into it.

[Guest Elionara]

Hello ,

I'e been playing warrior since legion dropped and people always told me to go fury , sure it's a fun spec ... however i feel so underwhelmed when i look at my numbers ... i'm 890 , pulling 400k ... something clearly is wrong here ... However id'e love to give arms a shot , my question though : is the transition from fury to arms do-able ? Or will i have to invest alot of time and gold getting my stats right ?

Kind regards ,

Elionara-Silvermoon EU

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On 4/24/2017 at 9:57 PM, Kaelath said:

Bladestorm is one of our main abilities for arms, Fury warriors only get it if they talent into it.

Exactly. Arms can also talent out of it with their 100 talents, so that might be why they didn't see it.

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On 4/25/2017 at 9:41 AM, Guest Elionara said:

is the transition from fury to arms do-able ? Or will i have to invest alot of time and gold getting my stats right ?

It's definitely do-able, of course. It'll be much easier than moving from class to class also, since some abilities do swap over. You can always use our Arms guide to help you out :)

[Kaelath 0]

To be brutally honest I use the same stats on both my arms build and fury build, just stack haste and mastery as long as you have 20% haste and like 70% mastery you're golden.

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18 hours ago, Kaelath said:

To be brutally honest I use the same stats on both my arms build and fury build, just stack haste and mastery as long as you have 20% haste and like 70% mastery you're golden.

They are incredibly similar, yes. It's just H>M vs. M>H. Most pieces of gear will work fine for both.

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[Worgenator 0]

Surely for AoE the better rotation would be (assuming you have Trauma)

1. Cast Warbreaker

2. Cast Cleave

3. Cast Whirlwind

4. Cast Bladestorm

in this way you get the entire trauma dot to tick whilst in the Bladestorm

[wordup 37]

On 16/06/2017 at 2:38 PM, Worgenator said:

Surely for AoE the better rotation would be (assuming you have Trauma)

1. Cast Warbreaker

2. Cast Cleave

3. Cast Whirlwind

4. Cast Bladestorm

in this way you get the entire trauma dot to tick whilst in the Bladestorm

With the recent update blocking Trauma from Critting I think the gain would be minor, but I'll do some research into whether it's worth doing since it seems reasonable to assume it wouldn't impact anything about the Bladestorm you cast.

[Guest Tinchen]

Hello,

i have a question to the Artifact Traits.in the 7.2 post artifact tree, crushing blows is skilled very eraly at position seven. But with the explained Talents, we will never use this skill ? Should not be "many will fall" in seventh place for bette whirlwind and crushing blows at the end, cause the skill is not used ? Just a question :-)

Greetings

[Valraz 0]

I feel the guide isn't really reflecting the right talents for ToS.

Going through the best performing Arms warriors in both Heroic and Mythic (WarcraftLogs), we see the following:

1) Only against Mistress Sassz'ine and Desolate Host are we seeing a high usage of Trauma. On all of the other bosses, players tend to favor Rend heavily.

2) FoB has been consistently replaced by Titanic Might, to the point that I'd question the viability of the talent for raids.

3) There is quite a high usage of Ravager, especially on fights with adds. There is also the odd case of people taking it in single target fights like Gorgoth and performing well, which leads me to believe the talent is quite more viable than the guide leads to believe.

 

Thoughts?

[Guest Retwar]

19 minutes ago, Valraz said:

I feel the guide isn't really reflecting the right talents for ToS.

Going through the best performing Arms warriors in both Heroic and Mythic (WarcraftLogs), we see the following:

1) Only against Mistress Sassz'ine and Desolate Host are we seeing a high usage of Trauma. On all of the other bosses, players tend to favor Rend heavily.

2) FoB has been consistently replaced by Titanic Might, to the point that I'd question the viability of the talent for raids.

3) There is quite a high usage of Ravager, especially on fights with adds. There is also the odd case of people taking it in single target fights like Gorgoth and performing well, which leads me to believe the talent is quite more viable than the guide leads to believe.

 

Thoughts?

Was literally about to say the same thing. Even on Mistress, on normal and heroic difficulty, I find myself using rend over trauma/fob. I was also blown away to see that "this is not taken" under ravager. This talent is INSANE with t20 + helm on certain fights. I find myself using rend/tm/ravager on more fights than not just because of how cooldowns line up.

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On 02/07/2017 at 7:28 PM, Guest Tinchen said:

Hello,

i have a question to the Artifact Traits.in the 7.2 post artifact tree, crushing blows is skilled very eraly at position seven. But with the explained Talents, we will never use this skill ? Should not be "many will fall" in seventh place for bette whirlwind and crushing blows at the end, cause the skill is not used ? Just a question :-)

Greetings

You can certainly take the WW trait over the Slam one if you are using Fervor, yeah. I'll ask for an update to that.

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On 07/07/2017 at 3:38 PM, Valraz said:

Thoughts?

Passing all on for an update.