Class Order Halls - Resources and Advancements

[Adonalsium 0]

14 hours ago, Blainie said:

Ah, slipped up on that when updating. I need to add a note on the page, but it's basically: use the extra troop to gather the counters that you need and then use items to give them vitality and keep them alive. If they have a bad counter that you don't need, let them die and just make a new one. Also, Meatball can be a combat ally, but honestly, he is an incredibly powerful champion for missions too. 

Hm ok, so should I just skip getting meatball on those chars that are listed to pick the troops on tier 7, and ignore what it says in the champions guide, or the other way around, ignore the upgrades guide and just get meatball on all my alts?

I currently have a 7th champion unlocked on all my chars, but not all have meatball yet, Basically I want to know if i should respec tier 7 on those that you mentioned to pick the extra troop, or if i should keep the tier 7 extra follower and unlock meatball for them...

Thanks in advance!

And also thanks for the previous work you put into the guide(s), they make it a lot easier for altoholics like me to get organized on every class <3

[Valks 2,373]

On 24.4.2018 at 2:36 AM, Amenophyckxs said:

Hm ok, so should I just skip getting meatball on those chars that are listed to pick the troops on tier 7, and ignore what it says in the champions guide, or the other way around, ignore the upgrades guide and just get meatball on all my alts?

I currently have a 7th champion unlocked on all my chars, but not all have meatball yet, Basically I want to know if i should respec tier 7 on those that you mentioned to pick the extra troop, or if i should keep the tier 7 extra follower and unlock meatball for them...

Thanks in advance!

And also thanks for the previous work you put into the guide(s), they make it a lot easier for altoholics like me to get organized on every class <3

The difference between the troop vs. the extra champion isn't game breaking for those it is recommended on, if Meatball is concerned. 

Which class/classes are you trying this with?

[Adonalsium 0]

9 hours ago, Blainie said:

The difference between the troop vs. the extra champion isn't game breaking for those it is recommended on, if Meatball is concerned. 

Which class/classes are you trying this with?

Every class. I leveled all my alts to 110.

I already unlocked Meatball on my main, and all my alts have the class order hall researches finished (i picked the 7th follower on all)

My plan was to unlock meatball on all of them, they are all on various stages of the mission quests.

Was just wondering if for those that you named in the guide, it would be better to just stop with the missions and respec to the troop.

[Valks 2,373]

On 27/04/2018 at 1:59 AM, Amenophyckxs said:

Every class. I leveled all my alts to 110.

I already unlocked Meatball on my main, and all my alts have the class order hall researches finished (i picked the 7th follower on all)

My plan was to unlock meatball on all of them, they are all on various stages of the mission quests.

Was just wondering if for those that you named in the guide, it would be better to just stop with the missions and respec to the troop.

For something of this scale, I would say yes, you can just go for the troops. The difference in actual end-result between troops vs. Meatball is very small compared to the amount of effort you'll put into getting Meatball on all of them. The troops definitely also have advantages over Meatball at times, it's very much a case-by-case basis. 

In an absolute ideal world, you will basically have the troops you "want", re-spec, keep the troops alive with Vitality items and have Meatball, but the upkeep is a bit more intense as you'll need to keep a close eye on your troops and what you're sending them on.

[Adonalsium 0]

12 hours ago, Blainie said:

For something of this scale, I would say yes, you can just go for the troops. The difference in actual end-result between troops vs. Meatball is very small compared to the amount of effort you'll put into getting Meatball on all of them. The troops definitely also have advantages over Meatball at times, it's very much a case-by-case basis. 

In an absolute ideal world, you will basically have the troops you "want", re-spec, keep the troops alive with Vitality items and have Meatball, but the upkeep is a bit more intense as you'll need to keep a close eye on your troops and what you're sending them on.

That makes a lot of sense. Except for the Demon Hunter, I have finished getting meatball on all those classes that were supposed to pick the extra troop though. However it would be a lot of effort to manage those troops and keep them alive on all of them, so I will try it this way. Thanks so much!

Edited April 30, 2018 by Amenophyckxs

[Valks 2,373]

On 1.5.2018 at 12:12 AM, Amenophyckxs said:

That makes a lot of sense. Except for the Demon Hunter, I have finished getting meatball on all those classes that were supposed to pick the extra troop though. However it would be a lot of effort to manage those troops and keep them alive on all of them, so I will try it this way. Thanks so much!

It's just less stressful, I might add a note suggesting that those that don't want to handle that kind of upkeep should just go for the extra champion. 

Good luck with your order halls nonetheless!

[Guest Wyr3d]

You may want to take a look at this again. I know for a fact that the Death Knight advancements have changed. Frost Wyrm has been removed, and replaced with Unholy Reclamation a much weaker ability.

Unholy Reclamation states: "quests grant you bonus resources while you have a combat Ally active. I'm guessing that's order resources, not exactly scare at this point. This makes Reanimation much more worthwhile IMO

[Wyr3d 0]

So all of the links in the Tier upgrade description links are now broken, so either wowbd is defunct, deleted a lot of old expansion content, or reworked whatever pages they had for them. That said, you may want to change all the links to wowhead equivalents or something.

I have emailed the author, but if not the author of the guide, then let admin deal with it.

Edited April 20, 2021 by Wyr3d