hearthstone Year of the Mammoth: Six Cards Leaving Classic

[SuperFly 5]

"Up to the maximum number of cards you could put in a deck, we will give you the full dust value of any cards you have that are being added to the Hall of Fame set."

So if you have a golden one and a normal one, you will get the refund for the gold one only.

[positiv2 950]

13 hours ago, SuperFly said:

"Up to the maximum number of cards you could put in a deck, we will give you the full dust value of any cards you have that are being added to the Hall of Fame set."

So if you have a golden one and a normal one, you will get the refund for the gold one only.

That's what I was thinking at first as well, but then comments started popping up, saying that you get max 2 golen (or 1 in case of legendary) and max 2 normal (again, max 1 when legendary), totalling 4 (or 2 legendary) cards.

[Guest]

On 21.2.2017 at 11:07 AM, positiv2 said:

Absolutely. Now, what I don't know is whether you get dust for both golden and normal card(s) if you have both, or only from the golden one. If it's the former, I just closed the best trade deal with Mexico got a ton of free dust and golden animations. If it's the latter, I just lost about 4k dust. So, until it is clear which is true (though I might have missed the information), I would refrain from crafting golden cards that you have without gold as well. Crafting golden cards that you do not have normal is a good deal though, unless you are going to need the dust until march/april.

Rest assured, you didn't loose any dust - no matter if you get dust for golden + non golden!

Let's do the math:

Status quo: You have 1 non-golden legendary (e.g. Sylvanas).

Two possibilities:

1) You do nothing.

As soon as year of mammoth starts, you have:

1 x non golden Sylvanas

1600 Dust

 

2) You craft a golden Sylvanas.

Now you have:

1 x non golden Sylvanas

1 x golden Sylvanas

- 3600 dust (since this much dust who had to invest)

 

Now the year of mammoth starts. (Since it is obvious that you gain if you are compensated for golden AND non golden I will neglect this and only look at the worst possible outcome: You get only dust for the golden copy)

Your new status is:

1 x non golden Sylvanas

1 x golden Sylvanas

0 dust (you invested 3600 and got 3600 back)

 

Let's compare it:

Case 1: 1 x non golden Sylvanas + 1600 dust

Case 2: 1 x non golden Sylvanas + 1 x golden Sylvanas

 

If you need the dust you can just dust the golden Sylvanas.

Leaving you with 1 x non golden Sylvanas + 1600 dust -> Exactly the same as if you would have done nothing at all!

 

And if you decide you prefer the golden Sylvanas you can dust the non golden which leaves you with:

1 x golden Sylvanas + 400 dust

-> You upgraded your normal Sylvanas to golden for 1200 dust.

 

You DID loose dust, if you had a golden copy already and crafted a non-golden copy. (Again, only if you get dust just for the golden one obviously.)

[positiv2 950]

@WedgeAntillesI crafted both Sylvanas Windrunner. If I get dust for the golden one only, I get 3600 for 5200 investment. Now the question is - will I be allowed to disenchant the normal one (as I prefer the animation over dust), or will it be like adventure cards pre-kraken? If it's the former, I lose 1200 dust (just like you calculated), which means I got an animation for low(-ish) amount of dust, which is okay, but it's still lost dust. If it's the latter, I got the animation for 1600 dust, which is on the verge of okay and not okay, but given my collection and love towards golden cards, still worth it.
So, if I get dust from the golden card only, I lose either 1600 or 1200 dust (assuming animation has 0 dust value).

[SuperFly 5]

So.

I've been thinking about the price cost and how to resolve it.

There is a post on reddit showing how much more expensive it will be. Roughly to start with the game was $500 a year to have a near full collection, then it went up to $1000 a year, now it will be $1500 a year.

I then read someone suggesting that 7 cards per pack instead of 5 might be nice.

After thinking about this, I'm starting to like the 7 cards per pack idea as a way to solve this.

It would keep me in the game and spending for a near full collection, otherwise...and with no change, I'm going to be out and turn into occasional FTP player.

What do you guys think to 7 instead of 5?

[positiv2 950]

As a F2P, I have to say that getting a big collection does not require spending money, let alone spending $1000. Earlier this season I crafted a golden Ragnaros the Firelord and a golden Sylvanas Windrunner, while I still have a ton of dust left (around 3k). All you have to do to get a big collection and a lot of dust is to use your resources wisely. If you invest your dust wisely, your investment will pay off, usually in the form of ranked chest. If you mismanage your dust, it sets you back.
So, while increasing the amount of cards in a pack from 5 to 7 would make it easier to get the cards you want, it is not necessary.

[SuperFly 5]

I've managed my dust very well, my son and I have a main account where no card is dusted unless there is a golden.

Okay maybe we are foolish in that we don't dust those golden cards but we don't waste dust by DEing a card that we may need in the future and I think this has paid off, collection wise anyway.


Yes, you can have a large collection with FTP. we have an alt account that specialises in only a few classes we dust everything else and that keeps the alt account with some nice decks for nothing.

But we are not talking FTP, obviously Blizz is not going to gain or lose any money from players that are not going to spend money anyway.

I'm talking about the people who pay to keep a near full collection as we do. It just seems crazy to start pushing some of us out of being able to afford it or not. Surely we are the people who are paying for the game to even be here?

We want a near full collection, not a half full collection. If we wanted a half full collection we would be FTP and not paying a cent!

Blah blah, bitter taste in mouth etc :)