wow Warbringers: Sylvanas (The Burning of Teldrassil Cinematic)

[Dravixus 11]

1 hour ago, Stan said:

TL;DR: I'm really perplexed after watching the animated short and not really sure why she did not kill Malfurion herself in the questline...

This was confusing to me as well. Perhaps it was simply enough to "remove the threat"? But that doesn't really fit in the whole, "Kill Stormrage and the Alliance will fall in line" line of strategy.

Perhaps she wanted Saurfang to finish what he started, knowing that it would conflict with his values? A way to bring someone less morally ambiguous as herself to heel perhaps?

Or I am simply overthinking it and it was just a weak attempt at ensuring that Stormrage lives on.

[dk360 1]

Welp, I just saved $100. Thanks Blizzard :)

[Shagz 0]

I don't understand people's sense of entitlement to ownership of the WoW lore and story direction. When a new government comes in do you unsubscribe from life or go join another country because you don't like the figurehead? Why not become more invested in your own character's personality and lore that you yourself have built over time?

The horde is a complex group of individual personalities and cultures... create your own backstory using the game as a path you walk. Do you think every soldier that has been ordered to commit an atrocity agrees with the decision?

I imagine my Orc monk having a sense of victory after reaching the tree before the shock of seeing the catapults fire and having to turn away in shame as civilians burn...

 

[dk360 1]

14 minutes ago, Shagz said:

 go join another country because you don't like the figurehead?

Yes, people do that.

[Weltenfeind 40]

I, for one, am just tired of seeing Horde ALWAYS end up being the bad guys. And most people knew it'd go tits up when Sylvanas was made Warchief. Nothing surprising (or even interesting), so far.

And, at this point, the obvious route is: Saurfang disagrees with Sylvanas, creates a splintergroup, players join group.

[Nazamber 38]

18 hours ago, lChronosl said:

Actually, no. You can only defect from the military. Witch they weren't, because they were civilians.

Exactly.

In international law, by definition a defector is not a militaristic term,  a defector is a person who gives up allegiance to one state in exchange for allegiance to another, in a way which is considered illegitimate by the first state. More broadly, it involves abandoning a person, cause, or doctrine to which one is bound by some tie, as of allegiance or duty. 

I would let you argue that the term treason would be the term used for a militaristic defector. Edward Snowden, committed treason while also defecting from the United States, he was a government agency employee, not a military body.

[Dantalian 20]

Hey guys! just my oppinion about Warbringers: Sylvanas.

First of all, general idea of Warbringers is to show US key figures and some story what will drive them in BfA.

Jainas part was excellent. It told us a story that for many players was unknown or forgoten. It also told us what it will try to accomplish. ( in short - Gather together her own people and do monething )

Now Sylvanas. In short I have this feeling that Sylvanas Warbringers were put tugether in a hury, not checking properly the final product. Comparing tho the Jaina Sylvanas part was really weak. (No music, already known story, some weird reasons) Why? About that some thought below.

Burning the Tree

Burning of Teldrasil was spoiled from BlizzCon. It is also the pre-patch event that tells us about it. From that perspective the idea showing that she burned the Tree is something not important to show. Quests will tell you that anyway! Also important part is reason. There are reasons why to burn it, but they were simply not shown.

Becoming a Banshee

The part about becaming a banshee actually was great. It is easy to note that this is the core part. Idea is pretty simple: Once alliance will get their hands on something powerful there will be "Arthas" type, that will come and do a lot of bad things, so lets take the azerite to the holde and hope for the best. And this is the one reason why Tree must burn. Instead of that they pointed out her strange feelings that cant be even connected directly to elves.

I think those missteps backfired right back at Blizzard and this is why the community is angry, upset, etc. Lets see what they show us in the last episode.

[lChronosl 182]

I reeeealy hope Azshara's is more similar to Jaina's. Hers is a story that certainly should be told as a song, maybe even some kind of folk tale setting like Jaina's. Not to mention that I believe most players don't really know the character and story, even after Legion.

[Rhondis 148]

Eh, not surprised by the way they went with Sylvanas. But I really doubt they are going to "Garrosh" her. That would be frustrating for us and stupid of Blizzard. Just wait until BfA plays out, N'zoth is still a hidden force to be considered here. 

I do however, have an issue as to how they handled Saurfang during the campaign. Him striking down Malfurion and being ashamed seems out of character especially considering his culture. However I do love the fact that he went out of his way to save Innocents. A good comparison between him and Sylvanas. Plus orcs were raised to fight with honor even if the enemy isn't going to raise their arms.

 

One opinion I have about the Warbringers, instead of just showing the fight as a whole. Instead show Sylvanas being betrayed due to her being a Banshee. I feel that would have gone better than this piece. Still good though!

Edited August 1, 2018 by Rhondis

[Demenzel 29]

On 7/31/2018 at 2:39 PM, Liadobap said:

What about Forsaken that try to return to others and no deflecting, they also betray Horde?

In the second they start walking away they deflecting.... doesn't matter if they change their mind when Sylvanas made her call... at least it doesn't matter to her....