Havoc Demon Hunter DPS Uldir Boss by Boss — Battle for Azeroth (BfA) 8.1

Last updated on Dec 10, 2018 at 16:54 by Wordup 72 comments

On this page, you will find tips, tricks, and strategies tailored to your Havoc Demon Hunter for each boss of Uldir. All our content is updated for World of Warcraft — Battle for Azeroth (BfA) 8.1.

1. Disclaimer

This page will serve as a rough introduction to Uldir based on the opening week following launch, and will be maintained in the coming weeks as more is discovered about the raid through live play and log availability. Right now, it will focus on talent options and small observable optimizations that you can execute as Havoc in each Uldir boss encounter, rather than a full-fledged guide for tackling the boss. Currently, the details are oriented toward Heroic mode and below, but will be updated with Mythic tips as time goes on.

2. Havoc Demon Hunter in Uldir

Havoc Demon Hunter currently has a variety of damage profiles that are flexible enough to handle all Uldir encounters. It also comes with a good number of tools that can deal with more specific fight mechanics, and will likely perform well in the Uldir environment.

2.1. Talent Cheatsheet

Bear in mind that the majority of talent selections presented below will follow a similar pattern to the Talent page, and your selections will be decided based on the same rules as the Talent page.

Taloc M.O.T.H.E.R. Fetid Devourer Zek'voz, Herald of N'Zoth Vectis Zul, Reborn Mythrax the Unraveler G'huun

3. Taloc

3.1. Suggested Talents for Havoc Demon Hunter on Taloc

3.1.1. Taloc Havoc Demon Hunter Talent Notes

You should be focusing on improving the most impactful aspect of your toolkit on Taloc, that being your burst-oriented single target. Due to this, using Demonic Icon Demonic combined with Blind Fury Icon Blind Fury will likely provide the most versatile damage profile allowing you to deal heavy damage both to the boss and adds during the transition. Other playstyles can work, however, but will require more nuanced timings and awareness.

  • Fel Barrage Icon Fel Barrage can be used as a high burst option to clear out enemies during the transition, but will fall behind Trail of Ruin Icon Trail of Ruin for most of the encounter, so it is a very niche pick.
  • Defensive options on the 5th tier will depend on sustain versus burst reduction. Desperate Instincts Icon Desperate Instincts and Netherwalk Icon Netherwalk will give added security in bad situations, while Soul Rending Icon Soul Rending will keep you healthy over the course of the encounter.
  • Final tier is decided based on what your group needs. Both Momentum Icon Momentum and Demonic Icon Demonic are flexible choices that can fit both phases of the encounter. Nemesis Icon Nemesis, on the other hand, will have you solely focusing on boss damage, so is likely the inferior choice unless absolutely necessary.

3.2. Havoc Demon Hunter Playstyle Tips on Taloc

  • Make use of both Fel Rush Icon Fel Rush and Vengeful Retreat Icon Vengeful Retreat to quickly disengage when afflicted by Sanguine Static Icon Sanguine Static for safety. Using these to get out when affected Plasma Discharge Icon Plasma Discharge and quickly re-engage when it ends will increase your uptime.
  • Aggressively use Blur Icon Blur to reduce damage taken during Plasma Discharge in case you are caught in pools, and also to reduce damage from the Cudgel of Gore Icon Cudgel of Gore AoE that hits the raid.
  • Make use of Eye Beam Icon Eye Beam's long range to hit all enemies during the transition, and try to orient yourself around the primary Coalesced Blood target, to deal the most damage to this.

4. M.O.T.H.E.R.

4.1. Suggested Talents for Havoc Demon Hunter on M.O.T.H.E.R.

4.1.1. M.O.T.H.E.R. Havoc Demon Hunter Talent Notes

M.O.T.H.E.R. comes with a diverse encounter profile that requires you to not only deal damage to your primary target, but also to groups of adds that spawn. This is also capped off by a high-damage burst phase at the end, so you will need to plan correctly as Havoc.

  • Fel Barrage Icon Fel Barrage can be taken if you are aggressively crossing over to burst down large groups of enemies, but is less versatile compared to Trail of Ruin Icon Trail of Ruin over the course of the encounter.
  • Defensive options on the 5th tier depends on your strategy. Netherwalk Icon Netherwalk can assist with you blocking high intensity bursts of raid damage when a large number of players cross over, but otherwise will fall off compared to the alternative sustain options available.
  • Final tier is decided based on what your group needs. Both Momentum Icon Momentum and Demonic Icon Demonic will accentuate your output over the course of the fight, while Nemesis Icon Nemesis leans heavily towards dealing high damage to the boss during the final burn phase. Demonic is likely the most flexible and least demanding to execute, so is recommended.

4.2. Havoc Demon Hunter Playstyle Tips on M.O.T.H.E.R.

  • Both Fel Rush Icon Fel Rush and Vengeful Retreat Icon Vengeful Retreat allow for very flexible movement to stay on your target, due to this being a heavy movement fight. It also allows you to counter-act the Wind Tunnel Icon Wind Tunnel displacement, and switch sides quickly during transitions.
  • Blur Icon Blur (and, if taken, Netherwalk Icon Netherwalk) can counter-act a lot of the heavy damage intake during transition crossovers by your raid. This should be used pre-emptively to keep yourself healthy.
  • Both Eye Beam Icon Eye Beam (and, if taken, Fel Barrage Icon Fel Barrage) allow you to front-load massive damage into large groups of enemies if you do a bulk crossover to transition to the next room.
  • Make sure to have Metamorphosis Icon Metamorphosis@ (and, if taken, Nemesis Icon Nemesis) available as you enter the final burn phase in the last chamber. Due to the increased damage taken, this will be your time to shine when it comes to boss damage.

5. Fetid Devourer

5.1. Suggested Talents for Havoc Demon Hunter on Fetid Devourer

5.1.1. Fetid Devourer Havoc Demon Hunter Talent Notes

Fetid Devourer almost entirely hinges upon single target damage, so opting into that fight style will help you greatly. A Demonic talent selection, however, allows for slightly more cleave between the boss and Corpuscles that spawn if positioning is correct, and lets you front-load damage outside of downtime.

  • Your final tier talents will be dictated based on what you want to excel at. Both Demonic Icon Demonic and Momentum Icon Momentum are more versatile, due to improving your damage dealt to Corruption Corpuscles, but Nemesis Icon Nemesis will allow you to focus on boss damage during the final burn phase. Bear in mind, however, that downtime can hurt Nemesis performance. This is somewhat mitigated by the final 50% burn period that increases the damage taken by the boss, and should be lined up with Metamorphosis Icon Metamorphosis if taken, meaning you may have to hold it.
  • Fel Blade Icon Fel Blade can be very useful here as an additional way to counter the knockback from the boss, alongside allowing you to engage Corpuscles quickly. This can accentuate a Momentum oriented build on this encounter.
  • Defensive options lie mostly in reducing damage rather than sustaining, because heavy windows appear frequently throughout the fight. Netherwalk Icon Netherwalk comes with the added benefit of being a potential movement tool in emergencies.

5.2. Havoc Demon Hunter Playstyle Tips on Fetid Devourer

  • Always be aware of the timer on Shockwave Stomp Icon Shockwave Stomp, and have a displacement tool (such as Fel Rush Icon Fel Rush or Vengeful Retreat Icon Vengeful Retreat) to counteract this if it will force you into a bad position.
  • Aggressively use Blur Icon Blur if you are affected by Putrid Paroxysm Icon Putrid Paroxysm, due to the high damage it inflicts.
  • If necessary, save high burst cooldowns, such as Eye Beam Icon Eye Beam, for Corpuscle spawns to make sure they are killed quickly. This is especially important if using Demonic Icon Demonic.

6. Zek'voz, Herald of N'Zoth

6.1. Suggested Talents for Havoc Demon Hunter on Zek'voz, Herald of N'Zoth

6.1.1. Zek'voz, Herald of N'Zoth Havoc Demon Hunter Talent Notes

Zek'voz has a number of damage profiles baked into one, much like M.O.T.H.E.R., and as such, your choices are going to be decided based on what your group needs. You have the flexibility to assist and burst down enemy targets quickly, or gain damage via cleave throughout the encounter; the last option can lean entirely into final phase burst, in order to burn the boss down when you reach it.

  • Your final tier options revolve around whether you want to be more flexible assisting with add phases, or burning down the boss in the final phase with the damage boost. Momentum Icon Momentum and Demonic Icon Demonic both provide the most versatile options for this. Demonic is strongly recommended here due to the synergy with Blind Fury Icon Blind Fury, which improves your ability to burst down large groups of adds - especially when paired with Fel Barrage Icon Fel Barrage. Nemesis Icon Nemesis on the other hand focuses on the final phase burn. You should generally be aiming to do the most throughout the encounter, making Nemesis a niche choice.
  • All 3 survival tools are useful depending on the circumstance. Netherwalk Icon Netherwalk provides a get out of jail free card in the event that you are caught out of position during Surging Darkness Icon Surging Darkness and need to soak an Orb of Corruption Icon Orb of Corruption. Desperate Instincts Icon Desperate Instincts allows you to mitigate damage taken from Roiling Deceit Icon Roiling Deceit, and Soul Rending Icon Soul Rending is a catch all sustain choice.

6.2. Havoc Demon Hunter Playstyle Tips on Zek'voz, Herald of N'Zoth

  • You can make use of both Fel Rush Icon Fel Rush and Vengeful Retreat Icon Vengeful Retreat to quickly disengage from the area when affected by Roiling Deceit Icon Roiling Deceit and Eye Beam Icon Eye Beam, dropping them safely without losing much uptime.
  • Make sure to have Metamorphosis Icon Metamorphosis@ (and Nemesis Icon Nemesis, if taken) when you trigger Orb of Corruption Icon Orb of Corruption, to deal the maximum amount of damage to the boss.
  • Make liberal use of Blur Icon Blur when targeted by Eye Beam Icon Eye Beam or fixated by Silithid Warriors to mitigate the damage taken.
  • Disrupt Icon Disrupt should be used as often as possible on the second phase adds, both to interrupt the cast and grant a boost of Fury to help you burn them down.

7. Vectis

7.1. Suggested Talents for Havoc Demon Hunter on Vectis

7.1.1. Havoc Demon Hunter Talent Notes

Vectis is a predominantly single target fight with some intermittent adds that spawn. It also has forced downtime, so you should opt into talents that are oriented toward this.

  • The final tier options have some caveats. Momentum Icon Momentum can be punished by movement restricting mechanics, which makes this a poor choice. Nemesis Icon Nemesis allows you to front-load your damage into the uptime phase of the fight, which can be very beneficial. Demonic Icon Demonic, however, allows you to make use of Blind Fury Icon Blind Fury, assisting with killing adds due to the timer synchronizing, and giving frequent burst periods making it the ideal choice.
  • Netherwalk Icon Netherwalk is strongly recommended as an emergency tool if you are soaking Plague Bomb Icon Plague Bombs in dangerous areas during the intermission and are restricted from moving.

7.2. Havoc Demon Hunter Playstyle Tips on Vectis

  • Be aware of the timer for the intermission to make sure you do not waste cooldowns. Also be aware of the Gestate Icon Gestate timer to make sure you do not waste Eye Beam Icon Eye Beam or Immolation Aura Icon Immolation Aura on a single target.
  • Fel Rush Icon Fel Rush and Vengeful Retreat Icon Vengeful Retreat allow you to quickly re-adjust to soak Plague Bomb Icon Plague Bombs during the intermission that are in awkward places.
  • Make sure to switch quickly to the adds spawned by Gestate Icon Gestate. This should line up with your Eye Beam Icon Eye Beam cooldown, allowing you to front-load heavy damage into it via the Demonic Icon Demonic effect.

8. Zul, Reborn

8.1. Suggested Talents for Havoc Demon Hunter on Zul, Reborn

8.1.1. Zul, Reborn Havoc Demon Hunter Talent Notes

Zul, Reborn is an encounter that has single target, cleave, AoE and priority burn phases, so your choice is very flexible. Due to how flexible Havoc is, you should be picking choices best at all of these profiles.

  • Final tier choices can allow for you to play either Momentum Icon Momentum or Demonic Icon Demonic. Whilst Momentum will provide you with the highest burst AoE during the encounter, there is large periods of cleave and single target alongside add waves that line up with Eye Beam Icon Eye Beam. This leans heavily into Demonic, and is recommended.
  • Netherwalk Icon Netherwalk and Desperate Instincts Icon Desperate Instincts both work well if you are required to soak Pool of Darkness Icon Pool of Darkness.
  • Due to Demonic Icon Demonic being so dominant, this heavily encourages taking Blind Fury Icon Blind Fury. This is accentuated by the frequent add waves that line up with your Eye Beam Icon Eye Beam cooldown, allowing for heavy AoE burst.
  • Fel Barrage Icon Fel Barrage can assist in bursting down Bloodthirsty Crawgs evenly if additional AoE is needed. If not, Trail of Ruin Icon Trail of Ruin provides a more flexible option throughout the encounter.

8.2. Havoc Demon Hunter Playstyle Tips on Zul, Reborn

9. Mythrax the Unraveler

9.1. Suggested Talents for Havoc Demon Hunter on Mythrax the Unraveler

9.1.1. Mythrax the Unraveler Havoc Demon Hunter Talent Notes

Mythrax is largely single target oriented, with small portions of cleave and AoE during the intermission. Your build should generally be trying to focus on the single target aspect, but if necessary, you have cleave choices that increase your versatility.

  • Your final tier choices heavily lean into Demonic Icon Demonic here due to the ability to leverage your Eye Beam Icon Eye Beam casts with Blind Fury Icon Blind Fury during the intermission. This also gives more frequent short burst phases that assist with downtime that can be caused by fight mechanics displacing or disabling you.
  • You have two defensive options. Soul Rending Icon Soul Rending will keep you healthy, due to the heavy raid damage. Both Netherwalk Icon Netherwalk allow you to mitigate damage taken when out of the group, if targeted by Imminent Ruin Icon Imminent Ruin. Desperate Instincts Icon Desperate Instincts on the other hand is an awkward choice as it may trigger Blur Icon Blur at a time you do not need it, but will in the future due to the spike damage in the encounter.

9.2. Havoc Demon Hunter Playstyle Tips on Mythrax the Unraveler

  • Make use of Fel Rush Icon Fel Rush and Vengeful Retreat Icon Vengeful Retreat to disengage from the boss late when affected by Imminent Ruin Icon Imminent Ruin. This allows you to keep high uptime on the boss.
  • Make liberal use of Disrupt Icon Disrupt to interrupt adds in the intermission for additional Fury.
  • Try to orient yourself to hit both your add and Visions of Madness Icon Visions of Madness during the intermission, dealing as much damage with Eye Beam Icon Eye Beam in cleave as possible.
  • If there are a large number of players having their mind control broken from Oblivion Sphere Icon Oblivion Spheres, use Blur Icon Blur to stay healthy.
  • Note that, Eye Beam Icon Eye Beam deals a fast succession of hits to knock someone back during the Oblivion Sphere Icon Oblivion Sphere charm, allowing you to break many people out of it quickly in an emergency.

10. G'huun

10.1. Suggested Talents for Havoc Demon Hunter on G'huun

10.1.1. G'huun Havoc Demon Hunter Talent Notes

G'huun has a whole lot of adds throughout the encounter, alongside some short windows of increased damage dealt, and damage taken by the boss. This leans heavily into flexible talents that allow you to cleave better, and front-load damage quickly.

  • Final tier talents are strongly oriented toward Demonic Icon Demonic, due to the requirement of using movement tools to handle the Power Matrix Icon Power Matrix. Damage bonus windows provided later in the fight are short, further accentuating the strength of Demonic allowing you to push all your damage into a brief period.
  • Defensive options lean toward Netherwalk Icon Netherwalk, in part because of the movement bonus it can provide, and the high burst windows of damage taken to grant an immunity when away from the group.
  • If you are not doing anything upstairs, you can take Fel Barrage Icon Fel Barrage to burst down adds in the first phase, but this will hamper you significantly over the course of the encounter, when compared to Trail of Ruin Icon Trail of Ruin. If you are handling Phase One fine, this should not be necessary.

10.2. Havoc Demon Hunter Playstyle Tips on G'huun

  • Fel Rush Icon Fel Rush and Vengeful Retreat Icon Vengeful Retreat are both very powerful tools for carrying the Power Matrix Icon Power Matrix orb. This allows for you to quickly dash across the slowing field, making Demon Hunters perfect for that role. You can, if absolutely necessary also hold Metamorphosis Icon Metamorphosis to leap to the input slot as well, allowing you to solo one side. This should not be needed in most groups, however.
  • Disrupt Icon Disrupt and Chaos Nova Icon Chaos Nova should be used liberally to interrupt Torment Icon Torment casts from Cyclopean Terrors.
  • When downstairs in the first phase, make sure that you have high burst tools, such as Eye Beam Icon Eye Beam, when Dark Bargain Icon Dark Bargain is active, to punch through dangerous enemies.
  • Have tools like Blur Icon Blur or Netherwalk Icon Netherwalk available during the Reorigination Blast Icon Reorigination Blast transition period to reduce your damage taken, as the entire raid will be taking punishment. Darkness Icon Darkness also helps a great deal here. Also use these during the final transition during Collapse Icon Collapse.
  • Having tools such as Metamorphosis Icon Metamorphosis@ and Eye Beam Icon Eye Beam charges available is extremely beneficial to deal high burst damage to G'huun when Reorigination Blast Icon Reorigination Blast triggers during Phase Two.

11. Changelog

  • 10 Dec. 2018: This page has been reviewed for Patch 8.1 and no changes are necessary.
  • 12 Sep. 2018: Updated following week 1 Uldir observations.
  • 04 Sep. 2018: Updated with initial tips for Uldir release.
  • 09 Aug. 2018: Page created in preparation for the eventual Uldir release (empty for now).
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