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Subtlety Rogue DPS Gear, Legendaries, and Best in Slot (BfA 8.0.1)

Last updated on Jul 16, 2018 at 18:38 by Ashine 1 comment

Table of Contents

General Information

This page is a gear reference for Subtlety Rogues. It lists your best items and Legendaries, gives you gearing advice, and shows you how you will be competing for loot with other classes.

The other pages of our Subtlety Rogue guide can be accessed from the table of contents on the right.

About Our Author

This guide has been written by Ashine, European Champion of the second Mythic Dungeon Invitational and a member of two top 60 guilds, Wiping as Intended and Group Therapy. He is regarded as one of the top Subtlety Rogues in the world and contributes a fair bit to the spec's theorycrafting. You can watch him play on Twitch.

1. Tier 21 Set Bonuses for Subtlety Rogue

The Tier 21 set bonuses help eliminate some of the desynchronization present in our rotation as well as offering great burst opportunities.

  • 2-piece bonus: each Combo Point spent reduces the cooldown of Symbols of Death Icon Symbols of Death by 0.2 seconds.
  • 4-piece bonus: Backstab Icon Backstab and Shadowstrike Icon Shadowstrike have a 4% chance to grant you Shadow Gestures Icon Shadow Gestures, causing your next finishing move to refund 100% of Combo Points when used.

The Tier 21 set bonuses have very large impact on our rotation. The 2-piece bonus smooths the rotation greatly by helping Secret Technique Icon Secret Technique and Symbols of Death Icon Symbols of Death line up without the need to delay. The 4-piece bonus offers great opportunities for a large amount of burst in a very short timespan.

2. Tier 20 Set Bonuses for Subtlety Rogue

The Tier 20 set bonus augments your Symbols of Death Icon Symbols of Death to provide even greater benefits when used.

  • 2-piece bonus: Symbols of Death Icon Symbols of Death increases your damage done by an additional 10%.
  • 4-piece bonus: Symbols of Death Icon Symbols of Death has a5 sec reduced cooldown and generates 2 Energy per second while active.

Both of these bonuses are great for increasing our burst windows with Shadow Dance Icon Shadow Dance, something we already excel at. The 2-piece in particular really amps up your opener and each dance thereafter (paired with Symbols), and you will see some pretty ludicrous numbers if playing with Dark Shadow Icon Dark Shadow. The 4-piece bonus helps you sustain these burst windows and reduce the emphasis on premeditated pooling while also increasing the frequency of your Symbols of Death Icon Symbols of Death. It is also beneficial for players using Secret Technique Icon Secret Technique, as they will not receive the Energy returns from Master of Shadows Icon Master of Shadows. No matter what talents you use, both set bonuses are worth acquiring and using, even over slightly higher level offpieces.

In Antorus, Subtlety Rogues tend to use 2-piece Tier 20 with 2-piece Tier 21 or 4-piece Tier 21. Damage difference between the two setups comes down to the item levels of your pieces, but in general the playstyle is regarded better with the double 2-piece setup due to it being more consistent.

3. Best in Slot List for Subtlety Rogue

With the existence of Titanforged and Mythic+ dungeons, there is no such thing as a hard Best in Slot anymore. This is more of a guideline for the best pieces to keep an eye out for in your raid or dungeon (if applicable). Be smart, and if you find higher item level pieces with valuable stat combinations do not hesitate to upgrade to them.

Slot Item Source
Helm Cavalier Hat of the Dashing Scoundrel Icon Cavalier Hat of the Dashing Scoundrel Aggramar
Neck Collar of Null-Flame Icon Collar of Null-Flame Felhounds of Sargeras
Shoulders Fanged Slayer's Shoulderpads Icon Fanged Slayer's Shoulderpads Fallen Avatar
Chest Vest of the Dashing Scoundrel Icon Vest of the Dashing Scoundrel Eonar the Life-Binder
Cloak Cloak of the Dashing Scoundrel Icon Cloak of the Dashing Scoundrel Antoran High Command
Wrists Fiendish Logistician's Wristwraps Icon Fiendish Logistician's Wristwraps Antoran High Command
Gloves Fanged Slayer's Handguards Icon Fanged Slayer's Handguards Harjatan
Belt Belt of Fractured Sanity Icon Belt of Fractured Sanity Varimathras
Legs Pants of the Dashing Scoundrel Icon Pants of the Dashing Scoundrel Imonar the Soulhunter
Boots Shadow Satyr's Walk Icon Shadow Satyr's Walk, otherwise Life-Bearing Footpads Icon Life-Bearing Footpads Eonar the Life-Binder
Ring #1 Insignia of Ravenholdt Icon Insignia of Ravenholdt, otherwise Band of the Sargerite Smith Icon Band of the Sargerite Smith Kin'garoth
Ring #2 Sullied Seal of the Pantheon Icon Sullied Seal of the Pantheon Argus the Unmaker
Trinket #1 Golganneth's Vitality Icon Golganneth's Vitality Argus the Unmaker
Trinket #2 Seeping Scourgewing Icon Seeping Scourgewing Varimathras

4. Trinket Priority for Subtlety Rogue

Assuming equal item levels:

  1. Specter of Betrayal Icon Specter of Betrayal
  2. Golganneth's Vitality Icon Golganneth's Vitality
  3. Eye of Command Icon Eye of Command (single target, no target switching)
  4. Seeping Scourgewing Icon Seeping Scourgewing
  5. Engine of Eradication Icon Engine of Eradication
  6. Stat Stick (Versatility)
  7. Shadow-Singed Fang Icon Shadow-Singed Fang
  8. Vial of Ceaseless Toxins Icon Vial of Ceaseless Toxins

Umbral Moonglaives Icon Umbral Moonglaives is also an excellent trinket to acquire for use in Mythic+ or encounters with heavy cleave/AoE.

5. Evaluating Upgrades Using Stat Weights

You can evaluate upgrades side by side using a simple napkin math formula:

DPS Value = Σ Stat weight × Amount of Stat

For example, using the stat weights from our Stats page, a pair of boots with 380 Mastery, 1150 Haste, and 976 Agility, we can calculate a DPS value of:

380×0.65 + 1150×0.38 + 976×1 = 1660.0

This does not give an exact DPS value, but can be used to calculate the relative value versus another piece. For example, if we have a second pair of boots with 450 Haste, 970 Versatility, and 976 Agility, we can compute the DPS value for that second item using the same formula, before comparing the results:

450×0.38 + 970×0.70 + 976×1 = 1826.0

We can clearly see that 1826.0 > 1660.0, and therefore, the second pair of boots are the stronger upgrade. This is the quickest, best, and most reliable way of determining whether or not you should use one upgrade or another, despite the fact that stats weights are very approximate and change with respect to fight type, fight length, and the values of your other stats (synergetic scaling).

6. Legendaries for Subtlety Rogue

6.1. Tier List

6.1.1. Top Tier

These are the strongest Legendaries available.

6.1.2. Mid Tier

These Legendaries are either highly situational or average.

6.1.3. Bottom Tier

These Legendaries should be avoided unless there are no other available options.

6.2. Extra Information

The best combination of legendary items with the standard single-target Talent build is currently Shadow Satyr's Walk Icon Shadow Satyr's Walk and Insignia of Ravenholdt Icon Insignia of Ravenholdt.

Mantle of the Master Assassin Icon Mantle of the Master Assassin and The Dreadlord's Deceit Icon The Dreadlord's Deceit have good synergy with each other providing immense amounts of AoE damage.

Mantle of the Master Assassin Icon Mantle of the Master Assassin grants 100% increased Critical Strike while in Stealth Icon Stealth, and for 5 seconds after breaking Stealth Icon Stealth. Unfortunately, this does not work with Shadow Dance Icon Shadow Dance which devalues this legendary considerably. When using this legendary, the player should aim to use it in a window where Nightblade Icon Nightblade will not be refreshed. You should then Vanish Icon Vanish, spend your pooled up Combo Points on Eviscerate Icon Eviscerate or Secret Technique Icon Secret Technique, then continue with the regular rotation. Overall, this is a solid legendary for single target and cleave.

Shadow Satyr's Walk Icon Shadow Satyr's Walk is a boot slot item that makes your Shadowstrike Icon Shadowstrikes refund Energy. With the standard single-target Talent build this is one of the strongest legendaries due to the amount of Shadowstrikes we are able to put out.

Insignia of Ravenholdt Icon Insignia of Ravenholdt is a ring that adds Shadow damage cleave to all targets up to 15 yards in front of you when you use abilities that generate Combo Points. This legendary excels in dealing single target damage and adds a small boost to your cleave.

The First of the Dead Icon The First of the Dead is a pair of gloves that offer superior Combo Point generation. For 2 seconds after activating Symbols of Death Icon Symbols of Death, Shadowstrike Icon Shadowstrike generates 3 additional Combo Points and Backstab Icon Backstab generates 4 additional Combo Points. Overall, this is one of the strongest single target legendaries.

The Dreadlord's Deceit Icon The Dreadlord's Deceit is a back slot legendary; it is great for fights with occasional cleave or AoE, and it is an exceptional choice for Mythic+.

Soul of the Shadowblade Icon Soul of the Shadowblade is a ring that grants the Vigor Icon Vigor talent. This legendary is one of the best situations where you use Shuriken Storm Icon Shuriken Storm constantly.

Denial of the Half-Giants Icon Denial of the Half-Giants is a bracer slot item, close behind The First of the Dead Icon The First of the Dead for single target. It adds 0.2 seconds to your Shadow Blades Icon Shadow Blades for each Combo Point spent on finishers. It can be a niche option for cleave and AoE as the increased Combo Point generation via Shuriken Storm Icon Shuriken Storm will allow you to greatly extend your Shadow Blades and pump finishers into a priority target.

Prydaz, Xavaric's Magnum Opus Icon Prydaz, Xavaric's Magnum Opus is a neck slot that causes you to gain an absorb equal to 30% of your maximum health for 30 seconds, refreshing every 30 seconds. It has quite a bit of secondary stats and a socket, making it a potent stat stick. That said, it still falls short of the more valuable legendaries due to its relatively unimpactful unique effect.

Cinidaria, the Symbiote Icon Cinidaria, the Symbiote is a belt that causes your attacks to deal 30% extra physical damage when your targets are above 90% health. It also heals you for 100% of this extra damage. This legendary could be exceptional for beating tight Phase One damage checks, however, there is currently no situation where this is made use of. Overall, a fairly weak legendary compared to its peers.

Kil'jaeden's Burning Wish Icon Kil'jaeden's Burning Wish is an underwhelming legendary, as it takes up a valuable trinket slot and has very low impact for sustained damage. It could be useful if there are a horde of stacked adds, but is otherwise lackluster in every way.

Will of Valeera Icon Will of Valeera is a leg slot item that causes Feint Icon Feint to heal you for 20% of your maximum health over 5 seconds. This legendary occupies as a valuable leg slot, denying a tier piece, and has a lackluster unique effect. It does have 3 secondary stats on it, however, making it a stat stick in essence.

Sephuz's Secret Icon Sephuz's Secret is a ring slot that grants 2% Haste and 10% Movement Speed passively. Additionally, successfully applying a loss of control effect or an interrupt will grant 25% Haste and 70% Movement Speed for 10 seconds, on a 30 second internal cooldown. As Haste is our weakest stat this legendary holds little value, even when it can be reliably activated.

The Sentinel's Eternal Refuge Icon The Sentinel's Eternal Refuge is a boot slot that has 3 sockets and grants 5% Movement Speed each time you kill an enemy. At 5 stacks, you will transform into a Wisp when you are out of combat, further increasing your Movement Speed and granting flight. This legendary has no use unless you have just hit level 110 and want a stat and item level boost.

7. Loot Competition

Regarding the loot you will get from raid or dungeon bosses, you will compete with other classes in the following cases:

Item Type Competing Classes
Tier Tokens Death Knights, Druids, Mages, and Assassination/Combat/Outlaw Rogues
Leather Armor Demon Hunters, Druids, Monks, and Assassination/Combat/Outlaw Rogues
  • Amulets
  • Cloaks
  • Rings
Everyone
Trinkets Havoc Demon Hunters, Feral Druids, Windwalker Monks, Hunters, Assassination/Combat/Outlaw Rogues, and Enhancement Shamans
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