Subtlety Rogue DPS Uldir Boss by Boss in Battle for Azeroth (BfA) 8.0.1

Last updated on Sep 25, 2018 at 11:25 by Ashine 71 comments

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General Information

On this page, you will find boss by boss strategies for your Subtlety Rogue for current content.

The other pages of our Subtlety Rogue guide can be accessed from the table of contents on the right.

About Our Author

This guide has been written by Ashine, European Champion of the second Mythic Dungeon Invitational and a member of two top 60 guilds, Wiping as Intended and Group Therapy. He is regarded as one of the top Subtlety Rogues in the world and contributes a fair bit to the spec's theorycrafting. You can watch him play on Twitch.

1. Disclaimer

This page will be a rough outline of the bosses and mechanics in the Uldir raid. This page will focus primarily on how a Subtlety Rogue can optimize its performance on the raid bosses in Uldir, and not on an actual raid strategy for the bosses. Initially, this page will focus on Heroic mode and lower, however, as more bosses are being killed on Mythic, the guide will also include optimizations for Mythic bosses.

2. Subtlety Rogue in Uldir

Subtlety Rogues are looking to be a very strong pick in Uldir, due to their strong burst DPS. This is mainly due to strict DPS checks on certain mechanics. Additionally, there are no fights which Subtlety truly struggles with, since none of the fights contain Subtlety's main weakness relative to the other Rogue specs, which is constant 2-target cleave.

2.1. Talent Cheatsheet

Taloc M.O.T.H.E.R. Fetid Devourer Zek'voz, Herald of N'Zoth Vectis Zul, Reborn Mythrax the Unraveler G'huun

3. Taloc

3.1. Suggested Talents for Subtlety Rogue on Taloc

3.2. Subtlety Rogue Playstyle on Taloc

3.2.1. Mechanics to be Aware of

  • Plasma Discharge Icon Plasma Discharge causes you to drop void zones under you. Move to the assigned spot or use Cloak of Shadows Icon Cloak of Shadows to get rid of the debuff.
  • Sanguine Static Icon Sanguine Static targets one person in the raid and shoots blood orbs towards the target. If you get targeted, make sure you move away from the raid.

3.2.2. DPS Cooldown Usage and Important Targets

  • Cooldowns should be used whenever they are ready, but be aware that the boss will go immune at 35%, so if you are close to that threshold, save them for Phase Two instead.
  • Focus Coalesced Bloods during intermission.

4. M.O.T.H.E.R.

4.1. Suggested Talents for Subtlety Rogue on M.O.T.H.E.R.

4.2. Subtlety Rogue Playstyle on M.O.T.H.E.R.

4.2.1. Mechanics to be Aware of

4.2.2. DPS Cooldown Usage and Important Targets

  • Cooldowns should be used whenever they are ready, but be aware that the boss takes 100% increased damage in the last room. Make sure to have your potion and Shadow Blades Icon Shadow Blades ready for this part of the fight.
  • Focus Remnants of Corruption whenever possible. Use Kick Icon Kick and Kidney Shot Icon Kidney Shot to interrupt their casts.

5. Fetid Devourer

5.1. Suggested Talents for Subtlety Rogue on Fetid Devourer

5.2. Subtlety Rogue Playstyle on Fetid Devourer

Fetid Devourer is a fight that Subtlety Rogues should excel on. This is due to the adds that spawn, which need to be bursted down very quickly. On Mythic difficulty, you will almost certainly want to talent into Dark Shadow Icon Dark Shadow to have more burst on the adds.

5.2.1. Mechanics to be Aware of

5.2.2. DPS Cooldown Usage and Important Targets

  • Cooldowns should be used whenever they are ready, but be aware that the boss takes 50% increased damage after reaching 50%. Make sure to have your potion and Shadow Blades Icon Shadow Blades ready for this part of the fight.
  • Focus Corruption Corpuscles down as soon as they spawn. If your raid is struggling with finishing them off, save Symbols of Death Icon Symbols of Death and a Shadow Dance Icon Shadow Dance charge for them.

6. Zek'voz, Herald of N'Zoth

6.1. Suggested Talents for Subtlety Rogue on Zek'voz, Herald of N'Zoth

On Zek'voz you should choose your talents depending on your raid composition. If your group has trouble clearing the Phase One Silithid Warriors, you can opt into Secret Technique Icon Secret Technique.

6.2. Subtlety Rogue Playstyle on Zek'voz, Herald of N'Zoth

6.2.1. Mechanics to be Aware of

  • Surging Darkness Icon Surging Darkness creates three zones of darkness centering where the boss cast the ability with one of the zones being a safe zone. If you are about to get, hit use Cloak of Shadows Icon Cloak of Shadows or Feint Icon Feint.
  • Move away from the raid, if you get targeted by Eye Beam Icon Eye Beam.
  • Move to the assigned spot, if you get the Roiling Deceit Icon Roiling Deceit debuff. Use Sprint Icon Sprint and Shadowstep Icon Shadowstep to get back to the boss quickly.
  • If you are assigned, soak Orb of Corruption Icon Orb of Corruption and make sure you have DPS cooldowns ready, because you get a damage-increasing buff from it.

6.2.2. DPS Cooldown Usage and Important Targets

7. Vectis

7.1. Suggested Talents for Subtlety Rogue on Vectis

7.2. Subtlety Rogue Playstyle on Vectis

7.2.1. Mechanics to be Aware of

  • Plague Bomb Icon Plague Bombs need to be soaked by players in Phase Two. If a Plague Bomb spawns near Vectis, use Cloak of Shadows Icon Cloak of Shadows or Feint Icon Feint when soaking it to reduce the incoming damage.

7.2.2. DPS Cooldown Usage and Important Targets

  • Cooldowns should be used whenever they are ready but make sure not to use them when Vectis is about to submerge.
  • Focus down Plague Amalgams instantly when they spawn or the healing absorb will overwhelm your healers. You can also use Cloak of Shadows Icon Cloak of Shadows to get rid of the debuff if necessary.

8. Zul, Reborn

8.1. Suggested Talents for Subtlety Rogue on Zul, Reborn

On Normal and Heroic difficulty, Secret Technique Icon Secret Technique will give you the most overall damage. On Mythic however, the importance of AoE damage is vastly reduced due to the new mechanic and therefore we recommend you to talent into Shuriken Tornado Icon Shuriken Tornado or Master of Shadows Icon Master of Shadows to boost your single-target.

8.2. Subtlety Rogue Playstyle on Zul, Reborn

8.2.1. Mechanics to be Aware of

  • If you get the Dark Revelation Icon Dark Revelation debuff, run away from raid and wait for it to run out. Alternatively use Cloak of Shadows Icon Cloak of Shadows to get rid of it, but keep in mind it will still spawn adds.
  • In Phase Two, do not stand in front of the boss because of Rupturing Blood Icon Rupturing Blood.

8.2.2. DPS Cooldown Usage and Important Targets

  • Cooldowns should be used whenever they are ready but make sure to have them when Phase Two is about to begin at 40%, because Phase Two is a race to finish the boss before you run out of space.
  • Focus down Nazmani Bloodhexers first as they are the most dangerous. If your group is running a strategy to CC them, you can use Blind Icon Blind.
  • Focus down Nazmani Crushers as your second priority. Do not stand infront of them because they have a cleave ability.
  • You can mostly ignore Bloodthirsty Crawg because they will likely be cleaved down passively. Use them to fuel your single-target damage.

9. Mythrax the Unraveler

9.1. Suggested Talents for Subtlety Rogue on Mythrax the Unraveler

9.2. Subtlety Rogue Playstyle on Mythrax the Unraveler

9.2.1. Mechanics to be Aware of

9.2.2. DPS Cooldown Usage

  • Cooldowns should be used whenever they are ready but make sure to not use them just before Intermission phase begins.

10. G'huun

10.1. Suggested Talents for Subtlety Rogue on G'huun

10.2. Subtlety Rogue Playstyle on G'huun

10.2.1. Mechanics to be Aware of

10.2.2. DPS Cooldown Usage and Important Targets

11. Changelog

  • 25 Sep. 2018: Added talent recommendations for Mythic.
  • 10 Sep. 2018: Small updates because of changes made to the bosses.
  • 04 Sep. 2018: Changed formatting on the page.
  • 31 Aug. 2018: Page updated with short description of bosses and recommended Talents.
  • 11 Aug. 2018: Page added (empty for now).
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