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Stacking crit or stacking haste as a frost DK?

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What's up everyone. So right now I have 25% crit and 26% haste on my Frost DK and I was wondering has anyone tried to go full crit or full haste and did you see any dps increase? Thank you.

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1 hour ago, mmowin said:

What's up everyone. So right now I have 25% crit and 26% haste on my Frost DK and I was wondering has anyone tried to go full crit or full haste and did you see any dps increase? Thank you.

you are at the break point for frankly both OBRA and machinegun. For OBRA you could go to the higher breakpoint which would be 30% crit and roughly 32% Haste. This basically can let you poop out another obliterate but thats about it. Both crit and haste have hard wall diminishing return break points with haste being the worse of the two. So frankly you won't get much of anything from pushing your crit or your haste much further. What stat to aim for in both scenarios is Mastery. OBRA likes a little verstatility too (under 10%) but beyond that mastery is your friend now.

TLDR no, pure crit or haste stacking isn't beneficial there are breakpoints, in most cases stacking mastery now is your best bet, no cap. 

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15 minutes ago, demonardvark said:

you are at the break point for frankly both OBRA and machinegun. For OBRA you could go to the higher breakpoint which would be 30% crit and roughly 32% Haste. This basically can let you poop out another obliterate but thats about it. Both crit and haste have hard wall diminishing return break points with haste being the worse of the two. So frankly you won't get much of anything from pushing your crit or your haste much further. What stat to aim for in both scenarios is Mastery. OBRA likes a little verstatility too (under 10%) but beyond that mastery is your friend now.

TLDR no, pure crit or haste stacking isn't beneficial there are breakpoints, in most cases stacking mastery now is your best bet, no cap. 

Awesome. Thank for the info!

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1 hour ago, demonardvark said:

you are at the break point for frankly both OBRA and machinegun. For OBRA you could go to the higher breakpoint which would be 30% crit and roughly 32% Haste. This basically can let you poop out another obliterate but thats about it. Both crit and haste have hard wall diminishing return break points with haste being the worse of the two. So frankly you won't get much of anything from pushing your crit or your haste much further. What stat to aim for in both scenarios is Mastery. OBRA likes a little verstatility too (under 10%) but beyond that mastery is your friend now.

TLDR no, pure crit or haste stacking isn't beneficial there are breakpoints, in most cases stacking mastery now is your best bet, no cap. 

Hey, I can either sit at 29% crit, 23% haste and 22% mastery with an 865 amulet or 26% crit, 23% haste and 28% mastery with an 880 one. What is the better option here?

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Definitely the latter.

10 minutes ago, Ikws said:

Hey, I can either sit at 29% crit, 23% haste and 22% mastery with an 865 amulet or 26% crit, 23% haste and 28% mastery with an 880 one. What is the better option here?

 

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17 hours ago, Browed said:

Definitely the latter.

 

agreed, for crit you can go up to 30% but it doesn't really get you anything else, its really more aimed at those shooting for FsC so the mastery bonus instead is much more valuable overall. 

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On 23/11/2016 at 3:56 AM, mmowin said:

What's up everyone. So right now I have 25% crit and 26% haste on my Frost DK and I was wondering has anyone tried to go full crit or full haste and did you see any dps increase? Thank you.

I am at 20% crit 30% haste 32% mastery - this is simming the highest for me by quite a bit. I tried this out in some mythic plus and kara last night and my dps has shot up quite a bit. Will look to hit up a raid in the week and compare, but its looking great at the moment.

i have a 875 eyeb of command to help the crit out and it feels really good. 

 

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