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witch one you guys think is better with my current gear haste build or the middle build at 50% haste?

 

https://www.dropbox.com/s/u8msjabzjhmw1yn/haste.png

 

https://www.dropbox.com/s/wei3nvw27spc5wp/Middle.png

 

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also have a few other items this link was not optimized purley to show the other items i have along with i have also a heroic chronomancer robes so ya idk what would be realisticly better

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witch one you guys think is better with my current gear haste build or the middle build at 50% haste?

 

https://www.dropbox.com/s/u8msjabzjhmw1yn/haste.png

 

https://www.dropbox.com/s/wei3nvw27spc5wp/Middle.png

The percentage tells us nothing, you'll need to put it to stats from gear. I'd also have preferred it if you had actually read Akraen's guide and the Mage FAQ because they actually tell you what you need to know.

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The percentage tells us nothing, you'll need to put it to stats from gear. I'd also have preferred it if you had actually read Akraen's guide and the Mage FAQ because they actually tell you what you need to know.

this isnt my first time on this site smile.png so preffering me to something isnt needed but ty for the response.. i can read all day long but getting help from an actually response helps me more.. as ive read his guide multiple times but its still easier for me to ask him than read over and over

 

 

ill get the other stats from gear link when armory is back up

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I would go for the 50% (aka 14242 rating) haste -> mastery build. There you have over a thousand more spell power than with the full haste build. So you're not taking a slightly devalued haste > mastery and you have a lot more spell power,

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this isnt my first time on this site smile.png so preffering me to something isnt needed but ty for the response.. i can read all day long but getting help from an actually response helps me more.. as ive read his guide multiple times but its still easier for me to ask him than read over and over

 

 

ill get the other stats from gear link when armory is back up

Please, explain me something. If we say that all the three specs are viable in every situation with one being better on single target, another on multidot and the last as a median, why do you expect us to TELL you which one you should go?

 

The whole purpose of this topic is to show you guys, that ALL THREE ARE GOOD!

I can only suggest, what I have already suggested in the "Mage FAQ" guide, which answer is no longer than 5-6 lines.

"Try them out, and see which one you like the most."

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this isnt my first time on this site smile.png so preffering me to something isnt needed but ty for the response.. i can read all day long but getting help from an actually response helps me more.. as ive read his guide multiple times but its still easier for me to ask him than read over and over

 

 

ill get the other stats from gear link when armory is back up

That's not really the type of attitude that makes people want to continue being helpful. It's nice to help those who want to be helped.

 

Now I think perhaps you should evaluate how seriously you want to take DPS. If you don't want to take it seriously enough to read and think on your own, then you can stick to just a basic rotation, stack any stats you want, get any gear you want, and just be content with a slightly less than ideal setup.

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the point was just ive been here already .. read over the guides already.. this isnt my first time here is all i was saying was no attitude only was stating that showing my builds and such to you guys is easier for me than reading and trying to understand things that way ... im sorry if i came across wrong or anything it just helps me to show visually and have feed back that way that is all...sorry again for any negitivaty that seemed to come from this..anyways thanks for the previus feedback from you guys and the help you did give me:)

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I would go for the 50% (aka 14242 rating) haste -> mastery build. There you have over a thousand more spell power than with the full haste build. So you're not taking a slightly devalued haste > mastery and you have a lot more spell power,

i was thinking that seemed like it would still be overall better

i just wasnt sure if i should have started going full haste or what yet haha thanks for the replie

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I think that may be the challenge here, noone can tell you what to play. You have to choose for yourself. What Frostedmages says makes much sense but nothing you can't see yourself, and if you are unsure of what build you will do best dps in the absolutely best thing to do is to test them out and find something that suits you. 

 

Still don't quite understand what exactly you want to know, apart from "what build should I play" but if you write out your questions in a more understandable way there are many of us that want to help :)

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I think that may be the challenge here, noone can tell you what to play. You have to choose for yourself. What Frostedmages says makes much sense but nothing you can't see yourself, and if you are unsure of what build you will do best dps in the absolutely best thing to do is to test them out and find something that suits you. 

 

Still don't quite understand what exactly you want to know, apart from "what build should I play" but if you write out your questions in a more understandable way there are many of us that want to help smile.png

ya again apoligies for coming off bad :((( and i think my current build that im playing with now is good actually just tested on a dumbie and am pulling more number than the 14242 50% build im at raid buffed 57% so im going to log a quick lfr and ill post the log to see what you guys think! thanks again!

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Push your living bomb uptimes a bit higher, 93.5% on Sha LFR is kind of low. Adds make it kind of complicated to analyse wasted Ice Lances, but Brain Freezes on sha look fine. There is no reason at all not to have 98% Nether Tempest(!) uptime on The Fallen Protectors though, I'm not sure why you used Living Bomb there.

 

When you run with that much haste(17k apparently) I'd advise you to be more aware of bomb uptimes, and to start snapshotting.

 

I'd also like to concur with Akraen; if you come here for help it would be wise to do so in a friendlier way. Many of the questions you ask are answered in other topics or in the FAQ, so we naturally direct you there. My job is to help people, and I like to help people, but they need to like receiving help, otherwise there is no use.

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Push your living bomb uptimes a bit higher, 93.5% on Sha LFR is kind of low. Adds make it kind of complicated to analyse wasted Ice Lances, but Brain Freezes on sha look fine. There is no reason at all not to have 98% Nether Tempest(!) uptime on The Fallen Protectors though, I'm not sure why you used Living Bomb there.

When you run with that much haste(17k apparently) I'd advise you to be more aware of bomb uptimes, and to start snapshotting.

I'd also like to concur with Akraen; if you come here for help it would be wise to do so in a friendlier way. Many of the questions you ask are answered in other topics or in the FAQ, so we naturally direct you there. My job is to help people, and I like to help people, but they need to like receiving help, otherwise there is no use.

Thank for the respond/help I will consider the nether tempest on protectors as your right there is defiantly more than 3 targets at times haha and again as I've said above I have apologized for my action so again to u I say sorry and thanks again!

Also as a side note not sure why maybe I get carried away but I've never been amazing at mutlidoting consistently for some reason :/ that's part of The problem as well

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Thank for the respond/help I will consider the nether tempest on protectors as your right there is defiantly more than 3 targets at times haha and again as I've said above I have apologized for my action so again to u I say sorry and thanks again!

Also as a side note not sure why maybe I get carried away but I've never been amazing at mutlidoting consistently for some reason :/ that's part of The problem as well

I can recommend a proper boss-frame addon that shows your DoTs on the bosses in a list, together with a mouseover macro and something like tidyplates. Multidotting is generally facilitated through your UI.

 

Don't underestimate the power of your UI.

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alright ill create a short little video showing my ui as it is right now

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ok so a little break down of my ui maybe you guys have suggestion's of making it better and such smile.png

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3pTNiW3isU - 2160P O.o

 

yellow weak aura bars - suppose to be snapshot (let me know what you guys think on the timing)

red Weak Aura Bars - suppose to be bomb expiring (let me know what you guys think on the timing)

FF and FFB are weak auras as well (as not needed but helps time left)

Bar under Procs are usful cooldowns

not sure what the weak aura is in the centerish, Buddie gave it to me haven't disabled it yet lol..

 

Along with...

 

Quartz

Dominos

sexy map

Skada

Recount

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I'll ask this a final time, so please take this more serious. We want to help you but you expect us to hand "the answer" to you on a silver platter and some of your posts are borderline spam. Research some stuff yourself and try stuff out, that is the only way to become a good player.

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I am reasearching hense why now I'm trying a haste build you keep saying you want to help so I post things for you guys to look at to help you guys better understand what I'm trying to say.. For you guys to better help.. Not sure why ur still flaming me..

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We are not flaming you, we just expect a certain attitude from those who need help. People are voluntarily spending their free time to write guides and detailed explanations, and anybody with frost knowledge can clearly tell that you haven't read them accurately.

 

As to your spec, I'd just stick to the 14242 haste cap. You are unable to keep bomb uptimes >97% so you clearly don't snapshot properly, and it makes more sense to capitalise icicles then.

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EXACTLY why I'm asking for help to learn how to do it better yes I have gone over tue guide on here for snap shoting yes, yes i need to read it more in depth, and adjust my addons with it.. I know this lol... I have gone over other topics its all good I just started haste build so obviously I'm not going to be great at it yet and the only way to get better is not by just owell I suck I'll just go back... So anyways.. Alls good thanks for the info I'll continue getting g better at this because with my current build I'm doing more numbers than before so I'm doing something. I'll stop asking and just work on it myself.

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Awesome, good luck. If you want to play safe; you can snapshot potently in the 14242 haste build as well, especially with Nether Tempest on multidotting fights. If you have any further questions feel free to ask, just make sure you've utilised the resources on here before, we've invested time in them for a reason :)

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Awesome, good luck. If you want to play safe; you can snapshot potently in the 14242 haste build as well, especially with Nether Tempest on multidotting fights. If you have any further questions feel free to ask, just make sure you've utilised the resources on here before, we've invested time in them for a reason smile.png

will do thanks!

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Alrighty. Since everything seems to be handled, I am closing this topic.

 

If you happen to have some more questions, feel free to start a new topic and ask the community.

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