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5.4.8; Item Upgrades and You

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Hey everyone,

 

As you may know, we'll be seeing 5.4.8 today which brings an additional 2 item upgrades to each of our armor pieces.

 

Because of that, I wanted to show and prove my theorized most optimal upgrade order.

 

1. Main-hand or 2H Weapon

2. PBoI/PPoP/AoC

3. Chest/Helm/Pants  (If they're 559 base ilvl or higher.  If not, do the Cloak first)

4. Legendary Cloak

5. Secondary trinkets

6. Boots/Shoulders/Belt/Gloves/Bracers

7. Rings/Neck/Offhand or Shield

 

AskMrRobot and several other sources show the Cloak over the Trinkets/Chest/Helm/Pants, but the math doesn't add up.  It's important to note that the Cloak's proc damage and chance do not change with these upgrades.

 

Xing-Ho @ 608

1855 Int

2902 Stam

991 Crit/Haste/Mastery

 

Xing-Ho @ 616

2005 Int

3127 Stam

1070 Crit/Haste/Mastery

 

Difference

150 Int

225 Stam

79 Crit/Haste/Mastery (237 total secondaries)

 

Headpiece of Celestial Harmony (Ele Set Helm) @ 574

2290 Int

3795 Stam

1280 Haste

1736 Mastery

 

Headpiece of Celestial Harmony (Ele Set Helm) @ 582

2486 Int

4089 Stam

1388 Haste

1880 Mastery

 

Difference

196 Int

294 Stam

108 Haste

144 Mastery (252 total secondaries)

 

Conclusion

Upgrading the Helm is mathematically worth more than upgrading the Cloak.  The same applies to Chest and Pants, as long as you can use both secondary stats.  Even if one is spirit (such as the Ele set pants) the extra Int gain should be able to carry forward the difference.

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The logic behind upgrading the cloak first is not that is unlikely you'll ever change it for another one?

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Now for the 'show your math' part for Amp trinkets being second in line to upgrade.

 

PBoI @ 574

8.52% of current Haste/Mastery/Spirit
8.52% additional Crit damage
~2480 Int Value from the proc  (14303 @ 17.4% theoretical uptime)
 
PBoI @ 582
9.17% of current Haste/Mastery/Spirit
9.17% additional Crit damage
~2680 Int Value from the proc (15409 @ 17.4% theoretical uptime)
 
Difference
0.65% of current Haste/Mastery/Spirit
0.65% additional Crit damage
~200 Int Value from the proc
 
Amp values, based on my current stats:
21406 Mastery * 0.65% = 139 Mastery
13928 Haste = 91 Haste
4700 Spirit = 31 Spirit
 
~60% of damage is from critical hits = 0.39% direct DPS gain.  (ref)
~400k DPS * 0.39% = ~1560 direct DPS increase.
~300k DPS * 0.39% = ~1170 direct DPS increase

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The logic behind upgrading the cloak first is not that is unlikely you'll ever change it for another one?

No, because then it wouldn't compete with BiS items, such as the Ele set helm/chest/pants.

 

I do mention that if your items aren't Warforged normal or higher in their base ilvl, the cloak will be the better.  Besides, item replacement shouldn't factor into it, since you can't typically rely on replacing anything until you get the boss down.  More stats = more damage/healing = bosses die more frequently.

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Will this affect our stat prio in any way? I'll be at 99,17% mastery when I upgrade this week, next week I'll be at 100%

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Will this affect our stat prio in any way? I'll be at 99,17% mastery when I upgrade this week, next week I'll be at 100%

No, Ele stat prios stay as they are.

 

EB Ele:

Hit > Mastery to 87.4% (minus EB*Amp) > Haste > Crit

 

UF/PE Ele:

Hit > Mastery to 100% > Haste > Crit

 

Both Enh and Resto will stay the same as well.

 

Enh:

Hit = Exp > Mastery >= Haste > Crit

 

Resto:

Spirit to comfort > Crit > Haste > Spirit > Mastery.

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One question: Does the legendary cloak's proc scale with the upgrade and, if so, have you figured that into your math?

Edit: I just saw your note about the proc not scaling. Are you sure?

Edited by Wungles

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One question: Does the legendary cloak's proc scale with the upgrade and, if so, have you figured that into your math?

Edit: I just saw your note about the proc not scaling. Are you sure?

100% sure, as I currently have mine at 4/4, and I've compared it to similar 2/4s.  The spell power of the proc and the proc chance both are not increased by raising the cloak's ilvl.  You may see the proc chance increase, but that is because of the way the RPPM on the cloak scales with haste, and the intrinsic haste gain from the ilvl gain.

 

You can also check vs WoWHead and WoWDB:

http://www.wowhead.com/item=102246

http://www.wowdb.com/items/102246-xing-ho-breath-of-yulon

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Some strange math seems to be going on with AMR upgrades

 

Edit: although checked this morning and it shows weapon->trinkets->chest helm legs -> cape

 

so exactly as expected

 

Edit 2: AMR updated this morning to not upgrade the clock proc, yay I'm not going crazy

Edited by dean771

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