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Azortharion's 6.2.2 MM Hunter Guide

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Finished for now. Will add more and update things accordingly.

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Ignore the sims right now. There's an issue with Simcraft involving the recent buff to pet AP. The AP our pets got is not actually applied to basic attacks, only auto attacks and simc has been applying the AP to both. Not sure if this is intended or not but it drops BM to last place. Trying to get a response from Celestalon right now because that's a huge oversight if it's not intended, and if it is then they are stupid as fuck.

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Welp, he just tweeted that. Confirmed that it's intended. BM is bottom of the meters.

 

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A couple changes to all specs, mainly because of the bug in simcraft. everything posted currently is up to date with the version of simcraft released this morning.

 

BM drops to bottom of the charts.

 

Small changes to each specs stat priority.

 

MM profile has been improved.

 

Talents for all specs have been updated with relevant numbers.

 

Races for all specs have been updated with relevant numbers.

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So MM is back to Glaive Toss over Barrage?  There are 2 guides on here and they are showing different information.  Is this going to be the most up to date one?

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So MM is back to Glaive Toss over Barrage?  There are 2 guides on here and they are showing different information.  Is this going to be the most up to date one?

This guide is for level 100. For now, you'll want to refer to the transition guide for level 90. For 90, Barrage > Galive Toss.

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This guide is for level 100. For now, you'll want to refer to the transition guide for level 90. For 90, Barrage > Galive Toss.

 

Ahh, I see.  Thanks!

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Going to be messing around with the stat priority section, because there's really no reason for it I'm thinking. You can't reforge anymore, and with reduced customization options we have no real need for the weights because you'll just want to go with the top one wherever possible..

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Going to be messing around with the stat priority section, because there's really no reason for it I'm thinking. You can't reforge anymore, and with reduced customization options we have no real need for the weights because you'll just want to go with the top one wherever possible..

Stat priority is important. Are we really won't have many items with same ilvl in WoD? Might also be important when deciding about tier off pieces. 

Previously we would just use Zehera's to sim which of two items would give the most DPS, but now we're out of convenient options. At least with stat weights we'd be able to use mrRobot to itemize. 

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Stat priority is important. Are we really won't have many items with same ilvl in WoD? Might also be important when deciding about tier off pieces. 

Previously we would just use Zehera's to sim which of two items would give the most DPS, but now we're out of convenient options. At least with stat weights we'd be able to use mrRobot to itemize. 

 

Stat priority is important, but it's best to generate your own stat priority.  The stat priorities listed from guides like this are good as a general guide, but once you start looking at your own upgrade lists I recommend running simcraft to get personalized stat weights.  You can plug those into AMR and get a pretty quick and easy upgrade list there. 

 

And when comparing one piece of gear to another, such as for tier piece, simcraft is definitely the best.

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was just wondering why you have exotic munitions  for BM at lvl 100 instead of Adaptation

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Stat priority is important, but it's best to generate your own stat priority.  The stat priorities listed from guides like this are good as a general guide, but once you start looking at your own upgrade lists I recommend running simcraft to get personalized stat weights.  You can plug those into AMR and get a pretty quick and easy upgrade list there. 

 

And when comparing one piece of gear to another, such as for tier piece, simcraft is definitely the best.

I guess so. It's just that I tried importing my profile into simcraft, and I couldn't, because apparently simcraft doesn't like russian armory / has no access to it. 

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was just wondering why you have exotic munitions  for BM at lvl 100 instead of Adaptation

 

If you click on "Level 100" next to the choice, he has linked a simulation showing EM ahead of Adaptation (albeit not by much)

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I'd like to point out that since the latest hotfix, Aspect of the Fox no longer allows us to hold our mastery, Sniper Training, on the run. When you run, Sniper Training considers you running, Fox or no.

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I guess so. It's just that I tried importing my profile into simcraft, and I couldn't, because apparently simcraft doesn't like russian armory / has no access to it. 

 

Well that sucks.  I may be able to get around it with AskMrRobot, if you can upload your character there.  I was going to try it, but when I clicked your Armory link to see what server you were on, I couldn't read diddly.  If you can load yourself into AMR, click on the big central green button, the click Optimize.  On the right you'll see a "Export to SimC" option.  That's how I always load my character in when I'm comparing gear.

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Well that sucks.  I may be able to get around it with AskMrRobot, if you can upload your character there.  I was going to try it, but when I clicked your Armory link to see what server you were on, I couldn't read diddly.  If you can load yourself into AMR, click on the big central green button, the click Optimize.  On the right you'll see a "Export to SimC" option.  That's how I always load my character in when I'm comparing gear.

I've noticed that export button too, but it didn't seem to work; I'll try again, thanks for reminding me.

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Niix can i ask you if you tested barrage instead of glaive?and what was the results?

or steady focus from thrill?

thanks :D

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Niix can i ask you if you tested barrage instead of glaive?and what was the results?

or steady focus from thrill?

thanks biggrin.png

 

If you click on the "Level XX" next to each talent choice, he has included a Sim of each talent choice for that tier

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If you click on the "Level XX" next to each talent choice, he has included a Sim of each talent choice for that tier

 

Oh i didnt notice that..thanks..

btw if u have spare focus..u use aim shot?or only when thrill is up?

sorry for my questions im new as a hunter and i want to learn some things..

thanks for ur help :D

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Oh i didnt notice that..thanks..

btw if u have spare focus..u use aim shot?or only when thrill is up?

sorry for my questions im new as a hunter and i want to learn some things..

thanks for ur help biggrin.png

Well how you gonna get thrill up if you don't spend your "spare focus" on aimed shot? Your only option is barrage / glaive toss, and they both are kinda unreliable in that role, with their long cooldown and all, and you can't just keep Steady-ing inbetween chimaera's casts. 

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Well how you gonna get thrill up if you don't spend your "spare focus" on aimed shot? Your only option is barrage / glaive toss, and they both are kinda unreliable in that role, with their long cooldown and all, and you can't just keep Steady-ing inbetween chimaera's casts. 

 

Well u are right but barrage has 60 focus cost but still alot of cd and glaive only 15 focus also a big cooldown..

you are probably right but also there are the crows which have alot of cooldown...

still working on my rotation as you can understand,i make alot of outgoing damage and im full of green items atm and i hirt around 7k..

i just need to resolve some things in my head.. thats why i ask..thanks alot btw smile.png

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Oh i didnt notice that..thanks..

btw if u have spare focus..u use aim shot?or only when thrill is up?

sorry for my questions im new as a hunter and i want to learn some things..

thanks for ur help biggrin.png

 

If boss is > 80% health or you have Rapid Fire active, Aimed Shot to focus dump.  Otherwise Barrage/GT should take priority.  Chimera shot takes priority over all of these under all circumstances.  Also, if you're using Barrage right now, you want to make sure you will have 60 Focus ready as soon as it comes off CD (except for under the two situation is mentioned), which means pooling Focus slightly to have 60 ready to go.  Even if ToTH is active, Barrage should take priority over Aimed Shot (right now).

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Been sick recently so haven't been at all motivated to get on the computer. Thanks so much for responding Atrais. I'd correct any mistakes in what you've told people but you've not been wrong. 

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I'd like to point out that since the latest hotfix, Aspect of the Fox no longer allows us to hold our mastery, Sniper Training, on the run. When you run, Sniper Training considers you running, Fox or no.

 

I'm curious where you got this information because I just tried it and it worked fine.

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