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Fire mage from #1 to dead last in 7.1?

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So rumor had it that Fire mages where going to be nerfed in 7.1. And i was searching for simcrafts to see if i should start to worry and build up my other artifact weapons, and ignoring my fire weapon. And i came upon this simcraft which shows Fire on the absolute bottom. Did they really Nerf Fire that much? http://www.simulationcraft.org/reports/Raid_T19P.html

I know Pyroblast is going from 400% to 376% but that and scaling up to T19 gear makes us become the weakest? anyone else have simcrafts for thought into what mage build will be the best? 

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Τhese sims are with 840 gear. Do we really need to say more? :D

Fire has always been bad with lower gear, whereas it scaled amazingly with better gear. I don't think most people who run Mythics and raid will have 840 gear by Nighthold.

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I haven't seen any changes made to the classes as far as tuning goes and haven't seen any balances that would nerf Fire into the ground.  So I am thinking your sim is wrong.


No class tuning has been done in Patch 7.1 yet. Changes from the PTR at this point are simply tooltip corrections.

http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/5969-Patch-7-1-PTR-Build-22578-Patch-7-1-PTR-Build-22578

 

Now, that being said, your sim is probably wrong.  Either the gear is wrong, or something is messed up with the sim.  Without having any major nerfs, there is no way you can go from 300k+ to 200k, it just won't happen.

 

Until 7.1 hits Tuesday and we have concrete proof of any changes made, the sim you are linking is pretty much not worth looking at.  Hold off judgement until after Tuesday and real raid data can be compared alongside sims.  This allows you to use proper gear to sim.

 

I can confirm that Pyro will be 376% now instead of 400%.  Probably due to the OP nature of the wrist legendary.  I still don't see this as a huge nerf, or every nearly close to those sims.

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