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Seems like fire mages are pretty fucked. I know not to trust sims 100%, but WHAT happened?

 

https://www.simulationcraft.org/reports/Raid_T19H.html

 

The guides are also updated and they still see Fire as top, so I don't know what to think right now. And looking at the patch notes I see why Frost is top with all the damage increases.

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The 7.1 sims doesn't really seem right at this point. Fire got nerfed by ~3% and other specs were buffed.

Fire isn't fucked at all and what I've seen still on top. Arcane is able to be in first position, but that needs hell of a gear.

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It turns out it might not have been a hype thing after all. Frost is probably better now in ST and in 1-2 Cleave. EN has extremely favourable fights for Frost at the moment, but I would stick to Fire for Mythic+. Arcane is really close, but it has extremely clunky mechanics and rotation + the movement issue.

All specs are close at the moment, so now you at least have the freedom of choice. The problem is artifact progression and legendaries, eg. I would probably stick to Fire if I had the Pyroblast bracers.

Mind that I used the word probably in the beginning. Sims are showing good results for Frost and as the days pass, the theory that Frost is better now gains more ground but we also have to wait for updated logs from the past few days to be certain. I am constantly on the Mage Discord reading as much as I can so I will let you know about whatever comes up :)

EDIT - Also bear in mind that people have admitted that the BC/TV build for Frost may be simmining too high at the moment, since human error plays an important role with all the procs and spells coming off cooldown etc.

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Alright cool, just keeping in my mind all the changes. I JUST got the freaking bracers so I was just looking for answers to the sims kinda being madness. Thanks! I'll def be on the mage discord too. Thanks again!

On 10/31/2016 at 1:47 AM, Zadina said:

Mind that I used the word probably in the beginning. Sims are showing good results for Frost and as the days pass, the theory that Frost is better now gains more ground but we also have to wait for updated logs from the past few days to be certain. I am constantly on the Mage Discord reading as much as I can so I will let you know about whatever comes up :)

EDIT - Also bear in mind that people have admitted that the BC/TV build for Frost may be simmining too high at the moment, since human error plays an important role with all the procs and spells coming off cooldown etc.

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