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Fury Warrior Titan's Grip vs. Single Minded Fury11 replies to this topic
Posted 03 October 2012 - 10:37 PM
Posted 04 October 2012 - 04:58 PM
At the moment for leveling it honestly doesn't matter. It is totally your chose on the matter. At 90 however is not much difference but there still is a difference on T14H Sim's by about 500 DPS going torwards SMF over TG. So like I said it does not matter for right now were you are at . Also to answer your 2nd question SMF offer's 1H and TG offers 2H weapons lol. Nothing to major.
So, I'm leveling my Fury Spec. Warrior, and I check his new abilites. Low and behold I found out not only did he now have Titan's Grip, but he had Single Minded fury. If you are anything of a perfectionist, like myself, I started to look into what would be the best for my character. Both sides, SMF and TG, seem pretty even. However I must ask, Is there a major DPS difference between the two?
Also, What would each offer?
This particular toon is not max level, he is level 60 at the moment. So I guess I'm leaning twoards what should I start to look to build on him when it comes down to weapons.
Edited by Clisis, 04 October 2012 - 05:00 PM.
Posted 03 November 2012 - 06:03 PM
Posted 30 November 2012 - 04:48 PM
Posted 30 November 2012 - 07:43 PM
Posted 10 December 2012 - 03:59 PM
Under SMF we have the MH / OH BiS* Weapons:
This accounts for the base increase of 35% damage due to the SMF buff. The OH, however, has "an additional 35% damage". We can come up with two seperate calculations here based on how the system "adds" this 35%. If it adds it to the base damage of the weapon then we can simply add 70% and go from there. However if the additional 35% is added to the new damage from the original 35% we obviously get more damage than 70%. Here's the math:
1) B(.35) + B(.35) = B(.70) + B = Damage
We'll take the weapons low-end base damage to start: 9172. The weapon in the OH slot gains an additional 35%. This, then, would simply mean we have a base damage of 9172 with 70% damage increase because it's in the OH slot:
9172 @ 70% = 9420.4 + 9172 = 15592.4 low-end damage.
2) B(.35) x .35 + B(.35) = Damage
With the same low-end base damage we can figure it out this route. We already know that the low-end damage with a 35% buff is now 12382.2. If we consider this a new B and add an additional 35% (due to the talent's treatment of the OH) it will be this:
12382.2(.35) + 12382.2 = 16716 low-end damage.
If the math is calculated with route #2 you can see it adds an additional 1123.6 damage to the low-end value. (16716 - 15592.4). Now remember this is strictly for the OH weapon slot. Now let's compare these stats to a BiS 2H Weapon.
TG BiS** Weapons are:
12382.2 - 22998.6 Damage (SMF Buff)
19571 - 29357 Damage (TG)
Shellsplitter has a weapon swing of 2.60 seconds and Harbinger swings 1 second slower at 3.60 seconds. DPS of a weapon is calculated by the following:
Low-End Damage = LED
High-End Damage = HED
Weapon Speed = WS
((LED/WS) + (HED/WS))/2 = DPS
For reference we'll use the weapon stats of Shellsplitter Greataxe to prove this:
((9172/2.6) + (17036/2.6))/2 =
(3527.7 + 6552.3)/2 =
10080/2 = 5040 DPS (Note the tooltip of the weapon for verification.)
With this in mind we can compare the SMF Buff against TG.
((12382.2/2.6) + (22998.6/2.6))/2 =
(4762.4 + 8845.6)/2 =
13608/2 = 6804 DPS (Note the top of the post)
((19571/3.6) + (29357/3.6))/2 =
(5436.4 + 8154.7)/2 =
13591.1/2 = 6795.6 DPS
So from here I do not need to show all the calculations of the OH slot. We can tell, either way, that the OH will put out more DPS than TG OH. (Both play off the dual-weild hit statistic regardless).
I'm no expert in theorycrafting. This is just going off my "common sense". In fact, I may be totally wrong about my approach to this but, despite that, I wanted to share my thoughts as my main is a Warrior, I love to DPS with him, and I always want to be putting out the most damage / DPS.
Speaking of that... the one point we have to remember is that the ultimate factor to weigh on is the actual damage you do and not the DPS you put out. As they say: if you pop out 100K DPS on burst but only provide 5% of the total damage done then your DPS means nothing.
Have a great day, folks. I hope ya'll enjoyed your math lesson for today!
* BiS for SMF information obtained from Mr. Robot
** BiS for TG information obtained form Mr. Robot
Edited: 4/3/2013: Updated weapon stats for Tier 15
Edited by Sajakain, 16 April 2013 - 03:30 PM.
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Posted 03 April 2013 - 07:40 PM
With that said, there is no difference in observation between patch 5.1 and 5.2 in the numbers between Single Minded Fury and Titan's Grip spec choices.